[ceph-users] Re: CephFS as Offline Storage

2024-05-22 Thread Joachim Kraftmayer
I have already installed multiple one node ceph cluster with cephfs for non-productive workloads in the last few years. Had no major issue, e.g. once a broken HDD. The question is what kind of EC or replication you will use. Also only powered off the node in a clean and healthy state ;-) What woul

[ceph-users] Re: CephFS as Offline Storage

2024-05-21 Thread Matthias Ferdinand
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 08:54:26PM +, Eugen Block wrote: > It’s usually no problem to shut down a cluster. Set at least the noout flag, > the other flags like norebalance, nobackfill etc won’t hurt either. Then > shut down the servers. I do that all the time with test clusters (they do > have d

[ceph-users] Re: CephFS as Offline Storage

2024-05-21 Thread Eugen Block
It’s usually no problem to shut down a cluster. Set at least the noout flag, the other flags like norebalance, nobackfill etc won’t hurt either. Then shut down the servers. I do that all the time with test clusters (they do have data, just not important at all), and I’ve never had data loss

[ceph-users] Re: CephFS as Offline Storage

2024-05-21 Thread adam.ther
Thanks guys, I think ill just risk it cause it's just for backup, then write something up later as a follow up on what happens in-case others want to do similar. I agree it not typical, im a bit of an odd-duck datahorder. Regards, Adam On 5/21/24 14:21, Matt Vandermeulen wrote: I would norm

[ceph-users] Re: CephFS as Offline Storage

2024-05-21 Thread Matt Vandermeulen
I would normally vouch for ZFS for this sort of thing, but the mix of drive sizes will be... and inconvenience, at best. You could get creative with the hierarchy (making zraid{2,3} of mirrors of same-sized drives, or something), but it would be far from ideal. I use ZFS for my own home machine

[ceph-users] Re: CephFS as Offline Storage

2024-05-21 Thread Marc
> It's all non-corperate data, I'm just trying to cut back on wattage > (removes around 450W of the 2.4KW) by powering down backup servers that 450W for one server seems quite hefty. Under full load? You can also check your cpu power states and frequency that cuts also some power. > > So that

[ceph-users] Re: CephFS as Offline Storage

2024-05-21 Thread adam.ther
Hello, It's all non-corperate data, I'm just trying to cut back on wattage (removes around 450W of the 2.4KW) by powering down backup servers that house 208TB while not being backed up or restoring. ZFS sounds interesting however does it play nice with a mix of drive sizes? That's primarily

[ceph-users] Re: CephFS as Offline Storage

2024-05-21 Thread Marc
> > I think it is his lab so maybe it is a test setup for production. > > Home production? A home setup to test on, before he applies changes to his production Saluti 🍷 ;) ___ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@ceph.io To unsubscribe send an email

[ceph-users] Re: CephFS as Offline Storage

2024-05-21 Thread Anthony D'Atri
> I think it is his lab so maybe it is a test setup for production. Home production? > > I don't think it matters to much with scrubbing, it is not like it is related > to how long you were offline. It will scrub just as much being 1 month > offline as being 6 months offline. > >> >> If y

[ceph-users] Re: CephFS as Offline Storage

2024-05-21 Thread Marc
I think it is his lab so maybe it is a test setup for production. I don't think it matters to much with scrubbing, it is not like it is related to how long you were offline. It will scrub just as much being 1 month offline as being 6 months offline. > > If you have a single node arguably ZFS wo

[ceph-users] Re: CephFS as Offline Storage

2024-05-21 Thread Anthony D'Atri
If you have a single node arguably ZFS would be a better choice. > On May 21, 2024, at 14:53, adam.ther wrote: > > Hello, > > To save on power in my home lab can I have a single node CEPH cluster sit > idle and powered off for 3 months at a time then boot only to refresh > backups? Or will th