Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-16 Thread Satish Patel
6, 2018 8:41 AM > To: Satish Patel > Cc: ceph-users > > > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives > > > > This doesn't look like a good benchmark: > > (from the blog post) > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/rawdisk/data.bin bs=1G count=20 oflag=direct >

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-16 Thread Michael Kuriger
I dunno, to me benchmark tests are only really useful to compare different drives. From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of Paul Emmerich Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 8:41 AM To: Satish Patel Cc: ceph-users Subject: Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-16 Thread Paul Emmerich
availability be handled by Ceph, don’t expect the performance to keep up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of > > Satish Patel > > Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2018 10:50 PM > > T

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-16 Thread Satish Patel
p and cheerful and let the data > availability be handled by Ceph, don’t expect the performance to keep up. > > > > > > > > From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of > Satish Patel > Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2018 10:50 PM > To: Paul Emme

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-12 Thread Adrian Saul
: Wednesday, 11 July 2018 10:50 PM To: Paul Emmerich Cc: ceph-users Subject: Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives Prices going way up if I am picking Samsung SM863a for all data drives. We have many servers running on consumer grade sad drives and we never noticed any performance or any fault

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Konstantin Shalygin
In a recent thread the Samsung SM863a was recommended as a journal SSD. Are there any recommendations for data SSDs, for people who want to use just SSDs in a new Ceph cluster? Take a look to HGST SN260, this is MLC NVMe's [1] [1]

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread leo David
I am using S3510 for both filestore and bluestore. Performance seems pretty good. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Robert Stanford wrote: > > Any opinions on the Dell DC S3520 (for journals)? That's what I have, > stock and I wonder if I should replace them. > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:34

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Robert Stanford
Any opinions on the Dell DC S3520 (for journals)? That's what I have, stock and I wonder if I should replace them. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Simon Ironside wrote: > > On 11/07/18 14:26, Simon Ironside wrote: > > The 2TB Samsung 850 EVO for example is only rated for 300TBW (terabytes >>

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Simon Ironside
On 11/07/18 14:26, Simon Ironside wrote: The 2TB Samsung 850 EVO for example is only rated for 300TBW (terabytes written). Over the 5 year warranty period that's only 165GB/day, not even 0.01 full drive writes per day. The SM863a part of the same size is rated for 12,320TBW, over 3 DWPD.

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Simon Ironside
On 11/07/18 13:49, Satish Patel wrote: Prices going way up if I am picking Samsung SM863a for all data drives. We have many servers running on consumer grade sad drives and we never noticed any performance or any fault so far (but we never used ceph before) I thought that is the whole

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Piotr Dałek
On 18-07-11 02:35 PM, David Blundell wrote: Hi, I’m looking at 4TB Intel DC P4510 for data drives running BlueStore with WAL, DB and data on the same drives. Has anyone had any good / bad experiences with them? As Intel’s new data centre NVMe SSD it should be fast and reliable but then I

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Mart van Santen
Hi, We started with consumer grade SSDs. This was in normal operation no problem, but did caused terrible performance during recovery or other platform adjustments which involved datamovements. We finally decided to replace everything with SM863 disks, which after a few years still perform

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Satish Patel
Prices going way up if I am picking Samsung SM863a for all data drives. We have many servers running on consumer grade sad drives and we never noticed any performance or any fault so far (but we never used ceph before) I thought that is the whole point of ceph to provide high availability if

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread David Blundell
Hi, I’m looking at 4TB Intel DC P4510 for data drives running BlueStore with WAL, DB and data on the same drives. Has anyone had any good / bad experiences with them? As Intel’s new data centre NVMe SSD it should be fast and reliable but then I would have thought the same about the DC S4600

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Paul Emmerich
Hi, we‘ve no long-term data for the SM variant. Performance is fine as far as we can tell, but the main difference between these two models should be endurance. Also, I forgot to mention that my experiences are only for the 1, 2, and 4 TB variants. Smaller SSDs are often proportionally slower

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Robert Stanford
Paul - That's extremely helpful, thanks. I do have another cluster that uses Samsung SM863a just for journal (spinning disks for data). Do you happen to have an opinion on those as well? On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 4:03 AM, Paul Emmerich wrote: > PM/SM863a are usually great disks and should be

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Paul Emmerich
PM/SM863a are usually great disks and should be the default go-to option, they outperform even the more expensive PM1633 in our experience. (But that really doesn't matter if it's for the full OSD and not as dedicated WAL/journal) We got a cluster with a few hundred SanDisk Ultra II

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Robert Stanford
Wido - You're using the same SATA drive as journals and data drives both? I want to make sure my question was understood, since you mention BlueStore (maybe you were just using them for journals; I want to make sure I understood). Thanks On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 3:14 AM, Wido den Hollander

Re: [ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Wido den Hollander
On 07/11/2018 10:10 AM, Robert Stanford wrote: > >  In a recent thread the Samsung SM863a was recommended as a journal > SSD.  Are there any recommendations for data SSDs, for people who want > to use just SSDs in a new Ceph cluster? > Depends on what you are looking for, SATA, SAS3 or NVMe?

[ceph-users] SSDs for data drives

2018-07-11 Thread Robert Stanford
In a recent thread the Samsung SM863a was recommended as a journal SSD. Are there any recommendations for data SSDs, for people who want to use just SSDs in a new Ceph cluster? Thank you ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com