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Probably the big question is what are the pain points? The most common
answer we get when asking folks what applications they run on top of Ceph is
everything!. This is wonderful, but not helpful when trying to figure out
what performance
-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:48:26 +0100 Nick Fisk wrote:
[mega snip]
4. Disk based OSD with SSD Journal performance As I touched on above
earlier, I would expect a disk based OSD with SSD journal to have
similar performance to a pure SSD
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We're using an extra caching layer for ceph since the beginning for our
older ceph
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Christian Balzer
Sent: 19 August 2015 03:32
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Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
On Tue, 18 Aug
From: Dominik Zalewski dzalew...@optlink.net
To: German Anders gand...@despegar.com
Cc: ceph-users ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:28:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
Hi,
I’ve asked same question last weeks or so
: Dominik Zalewski dzalew...@optlink.net
To: German Anders gand...@despegar.com
Cc: ceph-users ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:28:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
Hi,
I’ve asked same question last weeks or so (just search
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
Le Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:12:59 +0100
Nick Fisk n...@fisk.me.uk écrivait:
Bcache should be the obvious choice if you are in control of the
environment. At least you can cry on LKML's shoulder when you lose
data :-)
Please
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Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
I did not. Not sure why now - probably for the same reason I didn't
extensively test bcache.
I'm not a real fan of device mapper though, so if I had to choose I'd still
go for
bcache
Le Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:12:59 +0100
Nick Fisk n...@fisk.me.uk écrivait:
Bcache should be the obvious choice if you are in control of the
environment. At least you can cry on LKML's shoulder when you lose
data :-)
Please note, it looks like the main(only?) dev of Bcache has started
: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:28:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
Hi,
I’ve asked same question last weeks or so (just search the mailing list
archives for EnhanceIO :) and got some interesting answers.
Looks like the project is pretty much dead since
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To: German Anders gand...@despegar.com
Cc: ceph-users ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:28:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
Hi,
I’ve asked same question last weeks or so (just search the mailing list
archives for EnhanceIO
it with
a grain of salt, but that's what I would recommend.
Daniel
From: Dominik Zalewski dzalew...@optlink.net
To: German Anders gand...@despegar.com
Cc: ceph-users ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:28:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any
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From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of
Jan Schermer
Sent: 18 August 2015 17:13
To: Nick Fisk n...@fisk.me.uk
Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
On 18 Aug 2015
IE, should we be focusing on IOPS? Latency? Finding a way to avoid journal
overhead for large writes? Are there specific use cases where we should
specifically be focusing attention? general iscsi? S3? databases directly
on RBD? etc. There's tons of different areas that we can work on
On 08/18/2015 11:52 AM, Nick Fisk wrote:
snip
Here's kind of how I see the field right now:
1) Cache at the client level. Likely fastest but obvious issues like above.
RAID1 might be an option at increased cost. Lack of barriers in some
implementations scary.
Agreed.
2) Cache below
[mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of
Mark Nelson
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Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
On 08/18/2015 11:52 AM, Nick Fisk
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Mark Nelson
Sent: 18 August 2015 18:51
To: Nick Fisk n...@fisk.me.uk; 'Jan Schermer' j...@schermer.cz
Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:48:26 +0100 Nick Fisk wrote:
[mega snip]
4. Disk based OSD with SSD Journal performance
As I touched on above earlier, I would expect a disk based OSD with SSD
journal to have similar performance to a pure SSD OSD when dealing with
sequential small IO's. Currently the
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:50:38 -0500 Mark Nelson wrote:
[snap]
Probably the big question is what are the pain points? The most common
answer we get when asking folks what applications they run on top of
Ceph is everything!. This is wonderful, but not helpful when trying
to figure out what
Hi Sam,
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Samuel Just
Sent: 18 August 2015 21:38
To: Nick Fisk n...@fisk.me.uk
Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
1. We've
, August 18, 2015 7:36:10 AM
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
We're using an extra caching layer for ceph since the beginning for our
older ceph deployments. All new deployments go with full SSDs.
I've tested so far:
- EnhanceIO
- Flashcache
- Bcache
- dm
...@redhat.com
Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
I did not. Not sure why now - probably for the same reason I didn't
extensively test bcache.
I'm not a real fan of device mapper though, so if I had to choose I'd still go
for
bcache :-)
Jan
high performance.
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Jan Schermer
Sent: 18 August 2015 12:44
To: Mark Nelson mnel...@redhat.com
Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
I
.
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From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf
Of Jan Schermer
Sent: 18 August 2015 12:44
To: Mark Nelson mnel...@redhat.com
Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
I did
snip
Here's kind of how I see the field right now:
1) Cache at the client level. Likely fastest but obvious issues like
above.
RAID1 might be an option at increased cost. Lack of barriers in some
implementations scary.
Agreed.
2) Cache below the OSD. Not much recent
Anders gand...@despegar.com
Cc: ceph-users ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:28:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
Hi,
I’ve asked same question last weeks or so (just search the mailing list
archives for EnhanceIO :) and got some
@lists.ceph.com
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
On 08/18/2015 06:47 AM, Nick Fisk wrote:
Just to chime in, I gave dmcache a limited test but its lack of proper
writeback cache ruled it out for me. It only performs write back caching on
blocks already on the SSD
Of Jan Schermer
Sent: 18 August 2015 12:44
To: Mark Nelson mnel...@redhat.com
Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
I did not. Not sure why now - probably for the same reason I didn't
extensively test bcache.
I'm not a real fan of device mapper
...@redhat.com
Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
I did not. Not sure why now - probably for the same reason I didn't
extensively test bcache.
I'm not a real fan of device mapper though, so if I had to choose
I'd still go
...@optlink.net
To: German Anders gand...@despegar.com
Cc: ceph-users ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:28:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
Hi,
I’ve asked same question last weeks or so (just search the mailing list
archives
Hi,
I’ve asked same question last weeks or so (just search the mailing list
archives for EnhanceIO :) and got some interesting answers.
Looks like the project is pretty much dead since it was bought out by HGST.
Even their website has some broken links in regards to EnhanceIO
I’m keen to try
To: German Anders gand...@despegar.com
Cc: ceph-users ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:28:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] any recommendation of using EnhanceIO?
Hi,
I’ve asked same question last weeks or so (just search the mailing list
archives for EnhanceIO :) and got
output from iostat:
*CEPHOSD01:*
Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/srMB/swMB/s avgrq-sz
avgqu-sz await r_await w_await svctm %util
sdc(ceph-0) 0.00 0.001.00 389.00 0.0035.98
188.9660.32 120.12 16.00 120.39 1.26 49.20
sdd(ceph-1)
Le Wed, 1 Jul 2015 17:13:03 -0300
German Anders gand...@despegar.com écrivait:
Hi cephers,
Is anyone out there that implement enhanceIO in a production
environment? any recommendation? any perf output to share with the
diff between using it and not?
I've tried EnhanceIO back when it
The idea is to cache rbd at a host level. Also could be possible to cache
at the osd level. We have high iowait and we need to lower it a bit, since
we are getting the max from our sas disks 100-110 iops per disk (3TB
osd's), any advice? Flashcache?
On Thursday, July 2, 2015, Jan Schermer
I think I posted my experience here ~1 month ago.
My advice for EnhanceIO: don’t use it.
But you didn’t exactly say what you want to cache - do you want to cache the
OSD filestore disks? RBD devices on hosts? RBD devices inside guests?
Jan
On 02 Jul 2015, at 11:29, Emmanuel Florac
And those disks are spindles?
Looks like there’s simply too few of there….
Jan
On 02 Jul 2015, at 13:49, German Anders gand...@despegar.com wrote:
output from iostat:
CEPHOSD01:
Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/srMB/swMB/s avgrq-sz
avgqu-sz await r_await
On 07/02/15 13:49, German Anders wrote:
output from iostat:
CEPHOSD01:
Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/srMB/swMB/s
avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await r_await w_await svctm %util
sdc(ceph-0) 0.00 0.001.00 389.00 0.0035.98
188.9660.32 120.12
yeah 3TB SAS disks
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2015-07-02 9:04 GMT-03:00 Jan Schermer j...@schermer.cz:
And those disks are spindles?
Looks like there’s simply too
Hi cephers,
Is anyone out there that implement enhanceIO in a production
environment? any recommendation? any perf output to share with the diff
between using it and not?
Thanks in advance,
*German*
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Hi,
I’ve asked same question last weeks or so (just search the mailing list
archives for EnhanceIO :) and got some interesting answers.
Looks like the project is pretty much dead since it was bought out by HGST.
Even their website has some broken links in regards to EnhanceIO
I’m keen to try
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