Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days?

2017-02-22 Thread Tracy Reed
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 02:12:52PM PST, Gregory Farnum spake thusly: > Hmm, I went digging in and sadly this isn't quite right. Thanks for looking into this! This is the answer I was afraid of. Aren't all of those blog entries which talk about using repair and the ceph docs themselves putting peo

Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days?

2017-02-21 Thread David Zafman
Farnum Sent: 20 February 2017 22:13 To: Nick Fisk ; David Zafman Cc: ceph-users Subject: Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days? On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Nick Fisk wrote: From what I understand in Jewel+ Ceph has the concept of an authorative shard, so in the case of a

Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days?

2017-02-21 Thread Nick Fisk
> -Original Message- > From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of > Gregory Farnum > Sent: 20 February 2017 22:13 > To: Nick Fisk ; David Zafman > Cc: ceph-users > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days? > &

Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days?

2017-02-20 Thread Christian Balzer
one. 2. Scrubbing (deep) becomes something of "feel good" thing that can be done in much longer intervals (depending on the quality of your storage and replication size) and with much lower priority. As it's main (only?) benefit will be to detect and correct corruption before a

Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days?

2017-02-20 Thread Gregory Farnum
and handle more of the use cases that BlueStore is likely to expose and which FileStore did not. But just about all the scrub/repair enhancements we're aiming at will work on both systems, and making them handle the BlueStore cases may do a lot more proportionally for FileStore. -Greg > >

Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days?

2017-02-20 Thread Christian Balzer
the main goal and focus is still BlueStore with live internal checksums that make scrubbing obsolete, right? Christian > -Greg > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of > >> Tracy Reed >

Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days?

2017-02-20 Thread Gregory Farnum
in ways that cooperate with RADOS. -Greg > >> -Original Message- >> From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of >> Tracy Reed >> Sent: 18 February 2017 03:06 >> To: Shinobu Kinjo >> Cc: ceph-users >> Subject: Re: [ce

Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days?

2017-02-18 Thread Nick Fisk
ons that would be good as well. > -Original Message- > From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of > Tracy Reed > Sent: 18 February 2017 03:06 > To: Shinobu Kinjo > Cc: ceph-users > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair thes

Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days?

2017-02-17 Thread Tracy Reed
Well, that's the question...is that safe? Because the link to the mailing list post (possibly outdated) says that what you just suggested is definitely NOT safe. Is the mailing list post wrong? Has the situation changed? Exactly what does ceph repair do now? I suppose I could go dig into the code b

Re: [ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days?

2017-02-17 Thread Shinobu Kinjo
if ``ceph pg deep-scrub `` does not work then do ``ceph pg repair On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Tracy Reed wrote: > I have a 3 replica cluster. A couple times I have run into inconsistent > PGs. I googled it and ceph docs and various blogs say run a repair > first. But a couple people

[ceph-users] How safe is ceph pg repair these days?

2017-02-17 Thread Tracy Reed
I have a 3 replica cluster. A couple times I have run into inconsistent PGs. I googled it and ceph docs and various blogs say run a repair first. But a couple people on IRC and a mailing list thread from 2015 say that ceph blindly copies the primary over the secondaries and calls it good. http://