Re: [ceph-users] Using large SSD cache tier instead of SSD

2014-07-10 Thread Lazuardi Nasution
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[ceph-users] Using large SSD cache tier instead of SSD journals?

2014-07-08 Thread Somhegyi Benjamin
Hi, Consider a ceph cluster with one IO intensive pool (e.g. VM storage) plus a few not-so IO intensive. I'm thinking of whether it makes sense to use the available SSDs in the cluster nodes (1 SSD for 4 HDDs) as part of a writeback cache pool in front of the IO intensive pool, instead of

Re: [ceph-users] Using large SSD cache tier instead of SSD journals?

2014-07-08 Thread James Harper
I'm thinking of whether it makes sense to use the available SSDs in the cluster nodes (1 SSD for 4 HDDs) as part of a writeback cache pool in front of the IO intensive pool, instead of using them as journal SSDs? With this method, the OSD journals would be co-located on the HDDs or the SSD:HDD

Re: [ceph-users] Using large SSD cache tier instead of SSD journals?

2014-07-08 Thread Somhegyi Benjamin
- From: James Harper [mailto:ja...@ejbdigital.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:17 AM To: Somhegyi Benjamin; ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Subject: RE: Using large SSD cache tier instead of SSD journals? Have you considered bcache? It's in the kernel since 3.10 I think. It would

Re: [ceph-users] Using large SSD cache tier instead of SSD journals?

2014-07-08 Thread Arne Wiebalck
Hi Benjamin, Unless I misunderstood, I think the suggestion was to use bcache devices on the OSDs (not on the clients), so what you use it for in the end doesn’t really matter. The setup of bcache devices is pretty similar to a mkfs and once set up, bcache devices come up and can be mounted as

Re: [ceph-users] Using large SSD cache tier instead of SSD journals?

2014-07-08 Thread James Harper
Hi James, Yes, I've checked bcache, but as far as I can tell you need to manually configure and register the backing devices and attach them to the cache device, which is not really suitable to dynamic environment (like RBD devices for cloud VMs). You would use bcache for the osd not the

Re: [ceph-users] Using large SSD cache tier instead of SSD journals?

2014-07-08 Thread Somhegyi Benjamin
Wiebalck [mailto:arne.wieba...@cern.ch] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 11:27 AM To: Somhegyi Benjamin Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Using large SSD cache tier instead of SSD journals? Hi Benjamin, Unless I misunderstood, I think the suggestion was to use bcache devices