Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices?

2017-11-09 Thread Mark Nelson
e same SSD? Mensaje original De: Nick Fisk <n...@fisk.me.uk> Fecha: 8/11/17 10:16 p. m. (GMT+01:00) Para: 'Mark Nelson' <mnel...@redhat.com>, 'Wolfgang Lendl' <wolfgang.le...@meduniwien.ac.at> Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Asunto: Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on fas

Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices?

2017-11-09 Thread Denes Dolhay
g Lendl' <wolfgang.le...@meduniwien.ac.at> Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Asunto: Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices? -Original Message- From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of Mark Nelson Sent: 08 November 2017 19:46 To: Wolfgang Lendl <

Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices?

2017-11-09 Thread Richard Hesketh
ember 2017 19:46 >> To: Wolfgang Lendl <wolfgang.le...@meduniwien.ac.at> >> Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices? >> >> Hi Wolfgang, >> >> You've got the right idea.  RBD is probably going t

Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices?

2017-11-09 Thread jorpilo
ng Lendl' <wolfgang.le...@meduniwien.ac.at> Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Asunto: Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices? > -Original Message- > From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of > Mark Nelson > Sent: 08 November 2017

Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices?

2017-11-08 Thread Nick Fisk
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Nelson [mailto:mnel...@redhat.com] > Sent: 08 November 2017 21:42 > To: n...@fisk.me.uk; 'Wolfgang Lendl' <wolfgang.le...@meduniwien.ac.at> > Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster d

Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices?

2017-11-08 Thread Mark Nelson
-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices? Hi Wolfgang, You've got the right idea. RBD is probably going to benefit less since you have a small number of large objects and little extra OMAP data. Having the allocation and object metadata on flash certainly shouldn't hurt, and you should stil

Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices?

2017-11-08 Thread Nick Fisk
> -Original Message- > From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of > Mark Nelson > Sent: 08 November 2017 19:46 > To: Wolfgang Lendl <wolfgang.le...@meduniwien.ac.at> > Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] b

Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices?

2017-11-08 Thread Mark Nelson
Hi Wolfgang, You've got the right idea. RBD is probably going to benefit less since you have a small number of large objects and little extra OMAP data. Having the allocation and object metadata on flash certainly shouldn't hurt, and you should still have less overhead for small (<64k)

Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices?

2017-11-08 Thread Wolfgang Lendl
Hi Mark, thanks for your reply! I'm a big fan of keeping things simple - this means that there has to be a very good reason to put the WAL and DB on a separate device otherwise I'll keep it collocated (and simpler). as far as I understood - putting the WAL,DB on a faster (than hdd) device makes

Re: [ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices?

2017-11-08 Thread Mark Nelson
Hi Wolfgang, In bluestore the WAL serves sort of a similar purpose to filestore's journal, but bluestore isn't dependent on it for guaranteeing durability of large writes. With bluestore you can often get higher large-write throughput than with filestore when using HDD-only or flash-only

[ceph-users] bluestore - wal,db on faster devices?

2017-11-08 Thread Wolfgang Lendl
Hello, it's clear to me getting a performance gain from putting the journal on a fast device (ssd,nvme) when using filestore backend. it's not when it comes to bluestore - are there any resources, performance test, etc. out there how a fast wal,db device impacts performance? br wolfgang --