Re: [Cerowrt-devel] aqm gui feedback on cerowrt-3.10.24-1 for linklayer adaption

2013-12-17 Thread Jesper Dangaard Brouer
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 13:24:06 +0100 Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: On Dec 14, 2013, at 07:26 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: 2) it's not clear to me we have to support both the stab and htb_private methods of fixing htb's linklayer. It was important that these be

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] aqm gui feedback on cerowrt-3.10.24-1 for linklayer adaption

2013-12-17 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jesper, On Dec 17, 2013, at 09:03 , Jesper Dangaard Brouer bro...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 13:24:06 +0100 Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: On Dec 14, 2013, at 07:26 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: 2) it's not clear to me we have to support both the stab

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] aqm gui feedback on cerowrt-3.10.24-1 for linklayer adaption

2013-12-17 Thread Fred Stratton
In the new interface, htb_private is not an explicit option. IF aqm is enabled, and linklayer protocol is 'none', is htb_private implicitly chosen? On 17/12/13 08:22, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Jesper, On Dec 17, 2013, at 09:03 , Jesper Dangaard Brouer bro...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat,

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] aqm gui feedback on cerowrt-3.10.24-1 for linklayer adaption

2013-12-17 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:39 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: In the new interface, htb_private is not an explicit option. IF aqm is enabled, and linklayer protocol is 'none', is htb_private implicitly chosen? No, currently, you have no access to htb_private. I

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] treating 2.4ghz as -legacy?

2013-12-17 Thread Jim Gettys
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Michael Richardson m...@sandelman.cawrote: Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: For best 5GHz results, get rid of your walls and doors... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/14/virgin_media_superhub_update_modem_mode/ Yeah, in my house, my

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Cerowrt-devel Digest, Vol 25, Issue 20

2013-12-17 Thread Mike O'Dell
5GHz works when all your endpoint devices do 5GHz. that is nowhere near a ubiquitous condition. -mo ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] treating 2.4ghz as -legacy?

2013-12-17 Thread Jim Gettys
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:25 PM, dpr...@reed.com wrote: I know it will just trigger raging arguments, but it turns out that 5 GHz propagates far better in normal housing than does 2.4 GHz. In particular, actual scientific measurements of penetration of wood, fiberboard, concrete, brick,

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] treating 2.4ghz as -legacy?

2013-12-17 Thread Stephen Hemminger
I concur with Jim. My observation is that in our house, upstairs the 5Ghz AP has low signal strength reported by the devices, and poor bandwidth. Could it be that the radiation pattern of the antenna in WDR3800 laying horizontally is different for each band. Maybe the 5Ghz band is more of a

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] treating 2.4ghz as -legacy?

2013-12-17 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 03:43:45PM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote: I concur with Jim. My observation is that in our house, upstairs the 5Ghz AP has low signal strength reported by the devices, and poor bandwidth. Could it be that the radiation pattern of the antenna in WDR3800 laying

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-17 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Sebastian, And while trying to make an intelligent guess, I wonder how to map none/tc_stab into DSL and/or ATM; if adsl is the same as DSL; No ADLS is one out of a family of xDSLs (digital subscriber lines). As far as I know SDSL does not use ATM, VDSL1 might use ATM and all ADSL

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-17 Thread David Lang
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Rich Brown wrote: - From what you’ve said, I don’t have much hope for doing it automagically. But maybe we can provide clues to help the customer do to the right thing. Perhaps the first dropdown could be “Link Layer Adjustments (used on DSL or ATM)” with options for

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] treating 2.4ghz as -legacy?

2013-12-17 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 07:04:54PM -0800, David Lang wrote: As far as I have been able to tell this is purely a software thing. I'm not sure that it's even that it's so complicated as it is that there are no standards for APs to talk to each other to do this sort of thing so nobody has tackled

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] treating 2.4ghz as -legacy?

2013-12-17 Thread David Lang
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Theodore Ts'o wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 07:04:54PM -0800, David Lang wrote: As far as I have been able to tell this is purely a software thing. I'm not sure that it's even that it's so complicated as it is that there are no standards for APs to talk to each other to