[Cerowrt-devel] Anything but AQM

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
Any ideas for a name for packet scheduling, prioritization, and active queue management better than just AQM, or QoS? SQM Smarter Queue Management CeroShaper LBO Latency and Bandwidth Optimisation -- Dave Täht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but AQM

2013-12-20 Thread Rich Brown
Dave, You wrote: What's in a name? AQM has been pretty thoroughly defined to equal active queue *length* management and not packet scheduling. Overloading AQM what cerowrt does is apt to cause even more confusion in the field than it already does. We discussed using LBO as a word but that

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but AQM

2013-12-20 Thread Rich Brown
On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:22 PM, dpr...@reed.com wrote: They are based on a completely false premise - that queues should be allowed to build at all, and that local information can solve highly transient global problems. Dumb Queue Management is going to be far superior. Keep the queue at

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but AQM

2013-12-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi David, On Dec 20, 2013, at 22:22 , dpr...@reed.com wrote: Given that there is no likelihood of making localized queue management intelligent because it has no global information whatsoever, I strongly suggest that smart intelligent and even active are hugely misleading. They are

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but AQM

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:22 PM, dpr...@reed.com wrote: Given that there is no likelihood of making localized queue management intelligent because it has no global information whatsoever, I strongly suggest that smart intelligent and even active are hugely misleading. They are based on a

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but AQM

2013-12-20 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, I just remembered that about a year ago, Bill McGonigle offered a “marketing name” for CeroWrt - BroadbandEQ. He wrote: From: Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.com Subject: Re: Dang, I forgot... Date: December 10, 2012 11:13:55 PM EST To: Richard Brown Rationale: Not a precise

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but AQM

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
Given that StreamBoost(tm) consists of fq_codel + bigfoots packet classification technology and service which gives prioritization to gamer packets + some kind of automatic rate finder (better than gargoyle's ACC I'm told). I am increasingly irked by how the roles these technologies' interplay are