[Cerowrt-devel] shortage of nic chips

2022-01-14 Thread Dave Taht
I was looking over the "upgrade in place" concept again, today in light of the worldwide chip shortage. Recycled routers are making more sense https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T21on7g1MqQZoK91epUdxLYFGdtyLRgBat0VXoC9e3I/edit The i211 ethernet chips that I otherwise have loved so much are

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-14 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
Those are really high split rates. We (as in UFB in NZ) looked at 32:1 splits but it's rare - in practice it's often half that. Splits end up based on contention of regulated L2 plans which are sold to RSP's to on-sell to customers. Based on available backhaul bandwidth rather than any factor. i.e

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-14 Thread Michael Richardson
Jonas Mårtensson wrote: >> getting gpon more right has increasingly been on my mind > I think more right is to not turn the fiber into a shared medium in the > first place but since gpon is so popular, improving it seems like a > nice goal. >> Nobody in their right mind is

[Cerowrt-devel] Dynamic Buffer Sizing and Pacing as Enablers of 5G Low-Latency Services

2022-01-14 Thread Dave Taht
There have been, oh, 3? papers or so that I thought were good on how to do queuing more right on 5G networks, out of the hundreds. I'm pretty sure I posted a couple of the most promising ones here, but cannot remember enough (today my head is filled with gpon) of wading through the alphabet soup

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jonas, > On Jan 14, 2022, at 14:50, Jonas Mårtensson > wrote: > > > Not all ISPs work with a single level of splitters, some do 1:4 and split > > each of the four up into more later, I would guess that 1:4 + 1:8 will have > > a bigger aggregate attenuation than going 1:32 directly, but

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-14 Thread Jonas Mårtensson
> Not all ISPs work with a single level of splitters, some do 1:4 and split each of the four up into more later, I would guess that 1:4 + 1:8 will have a bigger aggregate attenuation than going 1:32 directly, but I am guessing here, so thanks for the numbers. It will be slightly higher, mainly

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jonas, > On Jan 14, 2022, at 14:12, Jonas Mårtensson > wrote: > > > Sure, but given that you probably need a few splices along the way and > > preferably pluggable connectors at both ends the loss budget is not that > > large (assuming an ISP does not want to push its luck and allows

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-14 Thread Jonas Mårtensson
> Sure, but given that you probably need a few splices along the way and preferably pluggable connectors at both ends the loss budget is not that large (assuming an ISP does not want to push its luck and allows for stuff like end-users not cleaning the plug diligently before each plugging). GPON

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jonas, > On Jan 14, 2022, at 11:44, Jonas Mårtensson > wrote: > > Hi, > > > getting gpon more right has increasingly been on my mind > > I think more right is to not turn the fiber into a shared medium in the first > place but since gpon is so popular, improving it seems like a nice

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-14 Thread Jonas Mårtensson
Hi, > getting gpon more right has increasingly been on my mind I think more right is to not turn the fiber into a shared medium in the first place but since gpon is so popular, improving it seems like a nice goal. > Nobody in their right mind is going to hook up 128 terminalt to one OLT port,