Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Kevin, > On Jun 20, 2018, at 11:15, Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant > wrote: > > > >> On 20 Jun 2018, at 09:07, Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> >> Hi Kevin, >> >> >>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 09:12, Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 20 Jun 2018, at 00:41, Jonathan Morton

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-20 Thread Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
> On 20 Jun 2018, at 09:07, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > >> On Jun 20, 2018, at 09:12, Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 20 Jun 2018, at 00:41, Jonathan Morton wrote: >>> On 19 Jun, 2018, at 11:34 pm, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Do we

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Kevin, > On Jun 20, 2018, at 09:12, Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant > wrote: > > > >> On 20 Jun 2018, at 00:41, Jonathan Morton wrote: >> >>> On 19 Jun, 2018, at 11:34 pm, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >>> >>> Do we have a good cookbook on how to determine the set-rate? >> >> On DSL, the

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-20 Thread Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
> On 20 Jun 2018, at 00:41, Jonathan Morton wrote: > >> On 19 Jun, 2018, at 11:34 pm, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> >> Do we have a good cookbook on how to determine the set-rate? > > On DSL, the sync rates in each direction should usually be readable from the > modem; they are

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-19 Thread Sebastian Moeller
On June 20, 2018 1:41:19 AM GMT+02:00, Jonathan Morton wrote: >> On 19 Jun, 2018, at 11:34 pm, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> >> Do we have a good cookbook on how to determine the set-rate? > >On DSL, the sync rates in each direction should usually be readable >from the modem; they are

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-18 Thread dpr...@deepplum.com
No doubt. However, sometimes one can get powerful economic forces to support good ideas. The entire telecom industry was going after the Internet as a concept fiercely in the days of "dialup" Internet access. Trying to get the government to allow them to price it out of existence, trying

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-18 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 19 Jun, 2018, at 1:43 am, dpr...@deepplum.com wrote: > > So, no, the Network Neutrality people are NOT the problem with Bufferbloat. No, but I think it's fair to point towards corporate greed and political ignorance as common causes of both problems. - Jonathan Morton