Re: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread Matt Williams
On Feb 2, 2008 6:55 PM, angry housewife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have watched my husband work very hard for three or four contracts in the last six months where he has only been paid ten percent of his total invoiced hours. My husband never signs a contract where the work has to be

Re: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread Vincent Cannady
Hi Matt, From what I read you have never had many contracts but I can vouch for what Angry Housewife says that I too have been paid when I go client locations to work but when I am up at three o clock in the morning doing work and submit for those hours I never seem to get paid even if I

RE: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread William Seiter
I agree that having a union would be good for working with dead beat clients as well as with obtaining good contracts, but a union should go further. To a client, a union has become the essence of 'good training'. Would we have an apprentice system? Would we develop 'union programming

Re: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I will simply note 3 things: 1) I would never run such a list due to liability 2) Since 1995 I've only had 1 dead beat client.so perhaps it's not just the clients?? 3) Why are you hiding behind a temp Yahoo account and not giving your name? Surely this means you're ever bit as scared of

Re: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread Matt Williams
It is true that I do not have much contracting experience. And I am probably naive about all the things that can go wrong. Because of this and due to Isaac's comments, I will retract my comment that because a contractor has had several non-paying clients that the contractor is at fault. On the

Re: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread Aaron Rouse
Some collective representation for IT workers has its advantages and I am sure disadvantages as well. One thing that has always annoyed me is how IT workers are treated by the tax man vs some other occupations and I think a collective representation could have the power in numbers to change

RE: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread William Seiter
What kind of issues have you seen with the 'Tax Man'? -- William E. Seiter Have you ever read a book that changed your life? Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com Enter passkey: goldengrove Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer http://William.Seiter.com -Original Message- From: Aaron

Re: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think unions are the single biggest evil in America today. If unions started making their way into programming, I would gladly trumpet my non-union status, and if it ever became impossible to do work without a union card, I would find another line of work. On Feb 3, 2008 3:36 PM, William

Re: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread s. isaac dealey
In fact, I'm probably treated a bit better because in Connecticut, web development services are exempt from sales tax, which is one less headache I have to deal with. I thought sales tax only applied to product. Am I like way out of touch? -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time

Re: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread Jeffry Houser
I thought unions dealt with employer-employee relationships; whereas this thread has been dealing with company - vendor relationships. Am I wrong in that? I can't imagine how a programmer's union would help me. Jerry Johnson wrote: I think unions are the single biggest evil in America

Re: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread Jeffry Houser
I was wondering that too... I don't believe that myself, as a business owner, is treated any differently than other business owners who are no in the IT field. In fact, I'm probably treated a bit better because in Connecticut, web development services are exempt from sales tax, which is

Re: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread Aaron Rouse
I think that is normally the case, I am seeming to recall certain forms of labor in some of our businesses we had to do sales tax on. One could maybe debate if code is a product though. On Feb 3, 2008 10:24 PM, s. isaac dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, I'm probably treated a bit

Re: Dead Beat Clients.

2008-02-03 Thread s. isaac dealey
I think that is normally the case, I am seeming to recall certain forms of labor in some of our businesses we had to do sales tax on. One could maybe debate if code is a product though. I would think it would at least depend on who owns the copyright. If you're selling a license and retaining