RE: On line project site
Guru.com was good for me a few years ago. Some clients post projects looking for US only coders and therefore are willing to pay a normal hourly range. I picked up a client that I kept for about 2 years until she stopped doing the business. Dave -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:02 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Re: On line project site I got one project on Rent-a-Coder that was less than encouraging. Maybe it was my lack of experience in managing client expectations at the time or maybe it was what this particular client had dealt with (and gotten away with) in the past but I ended up terminating the project before completion. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4154 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Quick response needed...
Three questions: 1. What is the average salary 'range' for CF developers right now in the US ? I have my own idea, but I'd like to know others. I'm talking a Senior developer (10+ years in CF). Regardless of location, there should be a 'range'. 2. Is $105,000 per year feasible for a Senior CF Developer for a job in America with 5 weeks paid vacation and 10 paid holidays? 3. Anyone know any recruiters who specialize in placing ColdFusion Developers? Thanks! Dave P.S. I apologize for those who get this on cf-community also, but I need a wide response. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4128 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
CF Job Market
Hi all, My job will be ending sometime next year due to a merger. I'm a Senior level CF Developer with 10+ years experience. I am wondering what the job market is looking like out there for us senior type CF developers with the economy the way it is here in the US. What I'm concerned about most that I see is more job descriptions asking for mid-level and junior developers, and lower salaries for those as well. I'm wondering if I might have trouble finding a job when the time comes because my salary demands would be too high and/or the employer would rather pay someone a lower salary for less experience, thinking they are getting the same efficiency. Please share whatever your thoughts are on this topic. I think this thread will be useful for anyone visiting it in the next 12-18 months, so let's really try to provide some good 'intel', if you will on the 'near future' CF market. Thanks! Dave Phillips ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4109 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: CF Job Market
Michael, Long timers have their way and any other approach is met with hesitation and disdain. This is a personality issue, NOT a result of having 10+ years of experience. I know plenty of CFers who have been around for 10 years that are doing OOP in CF, including myself. Also, I 'embrace' new approaches, not meet them with 'hesitation and disdain'. It sounds to me like you've just had some bad experiences. Dave -Original Message- From: Michael MacDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 1:37 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: RE: CF Job Market Michael, You make a great point and your grasp of the reality of the current landscape is commendable. I am actually looking for Jr-Mid-Level CFMX programmers for this exact reason. Those with less time in the market typically are less procedural and more likely to have an OO state of mind. Also, our company is looking to move to .NET in the future and having someone who 1) knows CFMX from a CFC/OO standpoint will be more likely to understand the architectural challenges of the OO world 2) they are more likely to have a CS degree 3) They haven't developed a view of the way things should be. Long timers have their way and any other approach is met with hesitation and disdain. Also, greener programmers are more likely to have developed in Agile project management style organizations. If they haven't they are less likely to rebuff this approach. I want to preface all my comments with the fact that this is my view and not the entire IT fields perspective. Thanks, Michael MacDonald Sr VP, Product Development / NEOGOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Michael Perlstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:15 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: RE: CF Job Market I don't think it's all about salary. Most people from my experience who have been using CF for longer periods of time, 10+ years, don't use CF in a way that truly leverages the oop attributes of the language. In fact more times then not the longer someone has been using CF the higher the chances they use it in a procedural capacity. This is especially true if CF has been for the most part the only language they feel comfortable with. But even in circumstances where they know Java or ...Net when one sits down to do CF if they are veteran of the language they revert to the procedural form. Jr. to Mid level developers can often times imply that they have only been exposed to the J2EE platform versions of CF, especially if they have a comp sci degree where they are taught Java and C++. They program oop if for no other reason then they don't know how to do it any other way. So not only do you get the cheaper salary but you get someone with all the benefits of a true oop background.. Regards, Michael Perlstein VP Program Management Rockville, MD 301.468.9246 x154 301.468.9670 (f) 703-869-6086 (m) www.AboutWeb.com -Original Message- From:Dave Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cf-jobs-talk ; Sent: Nov 6, 2008 02:03:59 PM Subject: CF Job Market Hi all, My job will be ending sometime next year due to a merger. I'm a Senior level CF Developer with 10+ years experience. I am wondering what the job market is looking like out there for us senior type CF developers with the economy the way it is here in the US. What I'm concerned about most that I see is more job descriptions asking for mid-level and junior developers, and lower salaries for those as well. I'm wondering if I might have trouble finding a job when the time comes because my salary demands would be too high and/or the employer would rather pay someone a lower salary for less experience, thinking they are getting the same efficiency. Please share whatever your thoughts are on this topic. I think this thread will be useful for anyone visiting it in the next 12-18 months, so let's really try to provide some good 'intel', if you will on the 'near future' CF market. Thanks! Dave Phillips ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4116 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: lists question
Michael, I like the form idea very much for cf-jobs. To be honest, I'm guessing most 'new' posters are posting with the form anyway (can you tell that?) The main reason I like it is that it can be structured so that we can always identify the pieces of information we need to know up front and those who are posting for the first time won't be so unsure about their post because the form itself will inform them on what they need to provide. I can't tell you how many posts I've seen over the years where the poster didn't even include the location of the job in the post. Too funny, really. :) Thanks for looking at this! Dave -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:32 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Re: lists question CF-Jobs is written so that any reply is automatically sent to the original posters email address, not to the cf-jobs list. In order to reply to the cf-jobs list someone would have to write the cf-jobs email address in specifically or have a bad email client. I'm setting the cf-jobs list to reject any 'reply-to' message which will stop replies but the off topic stuff would still be a problem. The answer to that is something I've been planning for a while which is to use a singe, standard job posting form to post to the list rather than free-flow emails. In other words, you would have to post from the site only for cf-jobs. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Larry C. Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: No. I do not want to see the CF-jobs talk littered with chatter and garbage. its bad enough that people automatically respond to the list without checking for the sender's email address. Combining the two lists will really reduce the signal to noise ratio. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Steve Runyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given how infrequently the lists are used correctly, would it make sense to combine CF-Jobs and CF-Jobs-Talk? I agree that the concept of splitting the two is a good one in theory, but maybe it doesn't make real-world sense. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4102 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: ColdFusion Trend Information?
This is more appropriate for cf-jobs-talk, so we should move it there. FYI - this is only for odesk.com trends, not ColdFusion in general. Dave -Original Message- From: Daryl James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:47 PM To: cf-jobs Subject: ColdFusion Trend Information? Does anyone know of any additional a href=http://www.odesk.com/trends/ColdFusion;Cold Fusion Developer Trends/a information? I'm doing some personal research and need more information. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4086 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: Coldfusion Developer needed in Suffolk County Long Island
This seems like it should be a private conversation and is not meant to be distributed to the entire listam I right? -Original Message- From: Dan Lodato Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:41 AM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Developer needed in Suffolk County Long Island No my company does not pay for relocation unfortunately, this position would allow a telecommute to perform this job! Thanks, Daniel Lodato IT Recruiter Lloyd IT 445 Broadhollow Road, Melville, NY 11747 631-777-7600 x702 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/7/148/247 -Original Message- From: Parikh, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:34 AM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Developer needed in Suffolk County Long Island HI Dan, I may have a candidate for you who is willing to relocate any where in US. Does you company pay for relocation? I will email my candidate your information. Thanks Raj Raj Parikh Sr Technical Recruiter CDI Business Solutions Phone: 248 786 5917 Fax: 248 786 5717 Toll Free: 1-800-555-4234 www.cdicorp.com -Original Message- From: Dan Lodato Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:12 AM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Developer needed in Suffolk County Long Island Raj, I will send Chicago Coldfusion developers I come across as well. I will pay 350$ referral fee to anyone I receive that is placed which is my companies policy. Raj is there anyway to view resumes on this website I was having trouble figuring that out navigating the site? There are literally no COldfusion Developers on LI and this search has been very challenging. Thanks, Daniel Lodato IT Recruiter Lloyd IT 445 Broadhollow Road, Melville, NY 11747 631-777-7600 x702 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/7/148/247 -Original Message- From: Parikh, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:09 AM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Developer needed in Suffolk County Long Island Hi Dan, I am also looking for a couple of Cold Fusion Developer but in Detroit, MI. If I come across anyone that is not interested in this location, I will forward it to you. Thanks Raj Parikh Sr Technical Recruiter CDI Business Solutions Phone: 248 786 5917 Fax: 248 786 5717 Toll Free: 1-800-555-4234 www.cdicorp.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4048 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: What Cold Fusion Job boards are there?
I am a full-time permanent employee of a Fortune 500 company and am a full-time telecommuter. I live in Arlington, Texas and my boss and *most* of my team members are in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. It works out really well. I have full benefits as I am a regular employee. I have also managed employees remotely, and while I will admit that there are some challenges to managing remote employees, from a development perspective, you can collaborate and work together just as well remotely as you can in person, and in some cases, are even more productive. The issue that I think most managers have with hiring remote employees is TRUST. They don't trust the employee to be in front of their keyboard 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. What they fail to realize, is that most employees in an office aren't in front of their keyboard 8 hours a day either. There's chatting with their co-workers, going to coffee or smoke breaks, long lunches because you have to drive 15 minutes to a restaurant, etc. Also, you are more likely to be interrupted when someone (especially the end-user) can walk by your desk than if they must pick up the phone or IM you. In fact, if you're busy, and someone IM's you, just ignore it and answer later. If you're busy and someone phones you, ignore it and answer later. But if you're busy and someone walks by your desk, what are you going to do, say, sorry, I can't talk right now, can you please leave? No, you're going to stop what your doing, and interruptions can cost 2-5 times more than the actual time of the interruption (for example, interrupt a programmer for 10 minutes, and it could actually be a loss of 20-30 minutes because of the time it takes to get ramped back up and 'in the zone', depending on what they were doing at the time of interruption. All that is said to say this: When I become a manager again, I won't have any problem hiring remote employees. If they don't produce, then I will let them go and get someone who will. The bottom line is that most remote employees (if they have experience being remote) knows that and they will produce oftentimes, even better than someone 'in the office'. Results are what matters, not how much time is spent tapping on their keyboard. Are they meeting deadlines? Are they producing quality code? Then who cares where they are located! Dave Phillips -Original Message- From: Vicky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:40 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: What Cold Fusion Job boards are there? That's your prerogative. I just don't want people misled that hiring telecommuters necessarily means not having to provide benefits. While many telecommuters are contracted, many are not. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Don Bellamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been in business for myself for 14+ years. Have always paid for my own health insurance, it can be had for pretty cheap, got full coverage with a $5k annual deductible for $280 per month for a family of 6. Adjust your hourly rates accordingly if that seems high. I for one don't want anyone else in charge of my health care or anything else important to me such as my 401k plan. Don -Original Message- From: Vicky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:07 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: What Cold Fusion Job boards are there? Agreed on just about everything but the health insurance. Full-time telecommuters still often require full benefits with regard to health insurance, 401k, etc. True, you still save money on the overhead. I happen to be on my husband's insurance, but many are still the sole providers. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I've got a major bias here, but I'll say it anyway. carl starm wrote: Our preference is for someone to work at our location in NYC. Carl, there are several good people out there that you are bypassing because you are wanting someone in NYC. Did you consider the following? 1) A remote location person can be as connected with your team (perhaps more so) then someone on site via IM, email, video conferencing, etc. 2) By not asking them to take transportation every day to work, you are helping the planet (Ok, perhaps you aren't interested in being green, but perhaps you are). 3) This one is usually the one that grabs peoples attention. Hiring a telecommuting person not only means that you have more people to select from, but it may be CHEAPER... Consider the cost of living in NYC. It's pretty high. Now compare that to the cost of living in (let's say) Montana. I would presume that it's much less. It would probably cost less to hire a programmer there. Not only that, but you don't need to provide space in the office, a computer, worry about lunch breaks, health insurance, etc. Seriously. Unless you have something you
The next level...
Hi all, I've been developing CF applications for over 10 years now. I've architected applications as well, taking them from concept through design, development, and implementation. I am now interested in making the shift into management. I'm not quite sure how to proceed and how to present myself. Several years ago, I did manager my own team of developers, but it was for my own company. I have since sold that company and have worked for other companies since 2005. Although I have 20 years of experience in IT, my Bachelor's degree is a BA in Religion and it is recent, from 2003 anyway. I've considered going back and getting a BS in Computer Science/Software Engineering, and then going on to get an MBA. I want to position myself to not only be a manager now, but also to be able to move into the director level position and above in the years to come. My current position is great, however, it may go away next year due to an impending acquisition of our company. As a result, moving up within my existing organization is probably not going to be an option for me. Any suggestions anyone has on how I should proceed? Thanks! Dave ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3969 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
Cameron, Some people read these in the forum through their browser, and there, if you 'reply', you are replying to the 'post' and your reply will go to the list, not the original sender. Some also read in digest mode, so it is definitely a requirement to post your contact e-mail if you want EVERYONE to be able to respond. Dave -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:10 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Reube Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested in your post, but there is no contact information supplied. Could you please post your contact information? Again? Really? Hitting reply defaults to the sender's contact email. What am I missing? Really? I mean... Really? -Cameron ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3913 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: Where are the Los Angeles Developers?
Too bad I can't move it there! -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:26 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Where are the Los Angeles Developers? And here in San Francisco is would be worth 20 million. On 12/20/06, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I own a 4,000 square foot house in the Dallas Fort Worth area for $200k And in Los Angeles.. that would be over $1 million. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: Where are the Los Angeles Developers?
Bill, Your point #1 is one well made, however, I think that some positions could be designated as telecommutable and not have issues with EEOC or any other regulatory agency. Then the whiners can just be told no and the HR dept doesn't have to worry about repercussions. Heck, if they get ticked off and leave, then the company will probably be better off without them anyway. Who wants a whiner working for them anyway? As for point 2, I would make the argument that any kind of collaboration that is needed on any application development project can be done remotely. You do not need to be 'face to face' with anyone (regardless of who is involved with the project) and even if you do, just use video conferencing, webcams, etc. The internet lends itself to collaboration and if a company is willing to spend the money on the collaborative tools, then a higher productivity will result because when you are getting together 'in person' for meetings, there is a lot of unproductive stuff that ends up happening anyway. I would argue here that the issue is CHANGEmeetings of 10 people on a design project could be a thing of the past if the right tools are used. I can't tell you how many meetings were wasted, and how much time was wasted when I was in an on-site team. I am a hundred times more productive working remotely and I can meet with anyone by e-mail, IM, phone, chat, web cam conference, or even web presentations and whiteboarding if necessary. All the tools are out there, it is simply an issue of a paradigm shift for hiring managers (and their managers, and their managers, all the way up the pole). I think this is the point Rob was trying to make, not so much that they don't 'trust' their remote employees, but that they just gotta get it through their heads that things are different. Consider when the first computer was used in the office place. Can you imagine the resistance to 'trusting' all of our documents to something electronic? Now, we hardly print anything now adays (unless you are in an industry that still doesn't trust computers, like the legal industry!) :) Dave -Original Message- From: McCabe, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:32 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: RE: Where are the Los Angeles Developers? Well, that's not always true. There's a couple major reasons that some companies frown on telecommuting: 1) From HR's perspective, believe me, if you do it for one person, you have to let EVERYONE telecommute at least a portion of the time. This is of course an enormous headache and too many people have ruined it by not legitimiately working from home. Once the floodgates open, productivity plummets. If you can get away with some doing it and others not (without complaining to mgt or HR) then go for it. 2) Like I told Pete, what seems like a position that lends itself well to telecommmuting (Web Development), in certain environments like ours, it is far too collaborative. Our position would have this person meeting cross functionally w/ Marketing and too many other groups so having that person here on site lends far more value. While people assume companies want to restrict telecommuting simply to keep tabs or be difficult is not really fair. There are sound business reasons for requiring on-site work, at least for full-timers. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: Where are the Los Angeles Developers?
Bill, Your point #1 is one well made, however, I think that some positions could be designated as telecommutable and not have issues with EEOC or any other regulatory agency. Then the whiners can just be told no and the HR dept doesn't have to worry about repercussions. Heck, if they get ticked off and leave, then the company will probably be better off without them anyway. Who wants a whiner working for them anyway? As for point 2, I would make the argument that any kind of collaboration that is needed on any application development project can be done remotely. You do not need to be 'face to face' with anyone (regardless of who is involved with the project) and even if you do, just use video conferencing, webcams, etc. The internet lends itself to collaboration and if a company is willing to spend the money on the collaborative tools, then a higher productivity will result because when you are getting together 'in person' for meetings, there is a lot of unproductive stuff that ends up happening anyway. I would argue here that the issue is CHANGEmeetings of 10 people on a design project could be a thing of the past if the right tools are used. I can't tell you how many meetings were wasted, and how much time was wasted when I was in an on-site team. I am a hundred times more productive working remotely and I can meet with anyone by e-mail, IM, phone, chat, web cam conference, or even web presentations and whiteboarding if necessary. All the tools are out there, it is simply an issue of a paradigm shift for hiring managers (and their managers, and their managers, all the way up the pole). I think this is the point Rob was trying to make, not so much that they don't 'trust' their remote employees, but that they just gotta get it through their heads that things are different. Consider when the first computer was used in the office place. Can you imagine the resistance to 'trusting' all of our documents to something electronic? Now, we hardly print anything now adays (unless you are in an industry that still doesn't trust computers, like the legal industry!) :) Dave -Original Message- From: McCabe, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:32 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: RE: Where are the Los Angeles Developers? Well, that's not always true. There's a couple major reasons that some companies frown on telecommuting: 1) From HR's perspective, believe me, if you do it for one person, you have to let EVERYONE telecommute at least a portion of the time. This is of course an enormous headache and too many people have ruined it by not legitimiately working from home. Once the floodgates open, productivity plummets. If you can get away with some doing it and others not (without complaining to mgt or HR) then go for it. 2) Like I told Pete, what seems like a position that lends itself well to telecommmuting (Web Development), in certain environments like ours, it is far too collaborative. Our position would have this person meeting cross functionally w/ Marketing and too many other groups so having that person here on site lends far more value. While people assume companies want to restrict telecommuting simply to keep tabs or be difficult is not really fair. There are sound business reasons for requiring on-site work, at least for full-timers. -Original Message- From: RobG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 11:40 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Where are the Los Angeles Developers? Companies want local people because their management can't get it through their heads that working remotely can be productive. These companies have to be able to keep tabs on what their people are doing. They don't believe in giving people the freedom to do what needs to be done, as long as the work gets done on time. I recently worked remotely for a company in San Diego while I was in Montana. I was there for seven months, the pay rate was extremely low (but there is NO CF work in Montana -- and how I ended up there is another story entirely), and then after seven months they inform me that they're cutting their remote developers to outsource them to CHINA because for what (little) they were paying me, they could have a TEAM of people. Talk about cutthroat. It nearly left my wife and I stranded up there; we pulled out all the stops, spent every last dime we had, and moved back to Reno (where my wife's family is) because at least there is work here, though not necessarily CF work. Since then I've picked up one remote gig out of the east coast that is part-time, and a local one working with a design firm that needed a programmer. It's still not as much work as I'd like, but at least it's work. CF work is definitely scarce. I want to get into Java and some other technologies, but haven't really figured out how to make the move yet. Rob
RE: Just joined; looking for advice
Matt, My thoughts are that if you can even secure a part-time contract with your current employer, lower your rate a bit to get it. This will give you a steady source of income which is the BIGGEST hurdle to going full-time on your own. The jobs are plentiful, but we (Westerners) are also competing heavily with the South Asian and Eastern European markets who code just as good as us (in most cases) but charge a lot less. There are American companies who won't use talent outside the U.S. for various reasons (communication issues, patriotism, etc.) but there are many, many more who are willing to do so, and that creates more competition in our industry which causes our rates to have to go down to compete. I have some clients for whom I charge a lower rate because they give me steady work, and others that are one-timers, etc. get a higher rate. You can also check out places like: http://www.guru.com http://elance.com http://rentacoder.com Again, competition is fierce, but I found one of my best clients (read: pays on time) on Guru.com! Another ideas is to hit consulting firms (like mine) to see if they have too much work and are willing to work with a freelancer. ;-) Sincerely, Dave Phillips WebTech Staffing, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] (402) 896-8801 -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:10 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Just joined; looking for advice So what kind of advice would folks give to a someone considering quitting my regular job and becoming a full-time freelancer. My regular job is a mix of coding, network maintanence, and other IT-type stuff. Over the past year or so I've picked up a couple of freelance/contractor positions. The primary reason I am considering this is that the freelance work pays much more - almost twice. I've calculated all the costs of things like health insurance, taxes, etc. and believe I could come out ahead. A secondary reason would be I could concentrate on coding/builing applications and drop the less enjoyable parts of the job which are coding. Ideally I would be able to have my current employer as a client and be able to continue the coding part of this job. But that may be wishful thinking, especially when I tell them my hourly rate. Any advice and suggestions are appreciated. Thanks. -- Matt Williams It's the question that drives us. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3148 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
FW: [JOB] Sr. CF Developer, San Francisco, CA | 70-80k
Question: Is the market in SF so inundated with CF Developers that a SENIOR CF developer can only get 70-80k? Is this what everyone is seeing elsewhere? How could someone live on that in SF with the way cost of living is there? You would have to be a two-income household if you wanted to own a house, that's for sure, and it's probably out of the question. What happened to salaries in the bay area being higher than other areas of the country? I've seen SR. developer positions for 100k plus, although not many anymore. Any one have any comments on what's happening out there? For those of us who have 8+ years of experience in CF, it seems that our only option to earn what we are worth is to go into management or go off on our own doing consulting. Is this the career path of a CF developer? Surely there are other options. I'd love to hear everyone's comments on this, especially those with many years of experience in CF like myself. Dave -Original Message- From: Beau Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:09 PM To: CF-Jobs Subject: [JOB] Sr. CF Developer, San Francisco, CA | 70-80k Sr. CF Developer, San Francisco, CA | 70-80k This local individual, as a member of the Web Development team, will be a key member of the design, coding, testing, integration, implementation, and roll out of all program websites and application solutions. This position focuses on the delivery and implementation of program websites. The individual in this position has demonstrated advanced knowledge and skill in web development and serves as a resource for the team. Primary responsibilities: * Lead most complex web projects from the requirements phase to implementation. * Design, implement, and maintain usable web applications using a combination of ColdFusion, HTML, JavaScript, as well as other web applications. * Uses independent judgment to manage web projects beginning with initial requirements phase completely through to implementation. * Deliver web projects and applications within allotted time frame and within budget. * Develop, organize, and input web content and serve as a technical expert to other members of the team. * Create and maintain relationships with Web vendors. * Develop website proposals, work requests, and outsourcing estimates. * Work with Web Development Team and Account/Project Managers in gathering/creating information content for Web presence for company programs. * Serve as an expert contact for our clients in order to deliver dynamic web solutions. * Act as a resource for the Registration department regarding guidance with back-end development of website and program databases. * Keep apprised of new developments/technology within web design/development sector and implement these ideas and functions into program websites and for company use, if applicable. * Oversee company Intranet development and management. If you are local to the San Francisco/San Rafael area, please submit your resume, salary requirements, and a paragraph (or two) highlighting your skills/experience as it pertains to this job to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3100 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: ColdFusion sightings in D/FW Area...
Sorry - Dallas - Ft. Worth, Texas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 2:05 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion sightings in D/FW Area... Where is D/FW? I assume it isn't around where I am because I don't reconize the area, but I have some people I can ask if you tell me where it is. :) Original Message: - From: Dave Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:02:39 -0500 To: cf-jobs-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: ColdFusion sightings in D/FW Area... Hi all, I would like to know if there have been any CF sightings in the D/FW area. I have not seen many jobs or contracts for that area, yet it is such a large metropolitan area. Anyone know of any companies there using CF ? Thanks! Sincerely, Dave Phillips WebTech Staffing, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] (402) 896-8801 ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3082 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: ColdFusion sightings in D/FW Area...
Thanks for those tips! Dave -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 3:28 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion sightings in D/FW Area... Matt's also been pretty heavily involved with the DFW ColdFusion User's Group and said there have been a number of jobs posted on their mailing list in the past few weeks: http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40list.dfwcfug.org/ Hi all, I would like to know if there have been any CF sightings in the D/FW area. I have not seen many jobs or contracts for that area, yet it is such a large metropolitan area. Anyone know of any companies there using CF ? Thanks! Sincerely, Dave Phillips WebTech Staffing, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] (402) 896-8801 s. isaac dealey 512.225.4227 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3091 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: Guerilla Job Marketing Article
Here are some points: Three types of ColdFusion Developers as I see it: 1. Those looking for permanent developer corporate jobs. (want stability benefits) 2. Those looking for contract developer jobs. (want variety and higher pay) 3. Those looking for contract consultant projects (independent, want flexibility and even higher pay) I think they all need to be addressed in such an article, unless he is only focused on #1. If that is the case, then I think a breakdown of expected salaries for Junior (1-2 years of experience), Mid-Level (3-5 years of experience) and Senior (6+ years experience) developers would be good. Another key point is what cities have the highest concentration of ColdFusion jobs available at any given time (obviously, DC is probably one of the highest). Another point is to not forget that to get the BEST ColdFusion jobs you need experience in other areas (SQL, Javascript, CSS, and nowadays - AJAX or frameworks like Fusebox, Mach II, Model-Glue, ColdSpring, etc.) Maybe a tip that if you aren't using a framework or one of the above skill sets in your current job, do some work on your own in these areas to sharpen your skills there. That's all I can think of right now. It seems to me that to find the BEST ColdFusion job, you have to be happy in it, and that means: The right salary The right location The right benefits The right environment And most of all, the right PEOPLE. Once you find all these, you have the BEST CF Job and you will probably keep it for a long time. :) Dave -Original Message- From: Sonya Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:17 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: RE: Guerilla Job Marketing Article I think it would be interesting to see information on finding ways to transition from the developer level to project planning and management, and programmer team management, and how to market yourself in that arena professionally. Sonya Hughes Circle Star Consulting -Original Message- From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:04 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Guerilla Job Marketing Article David Perry, author of Guerilla Marketing for the Job Hunter (http://www.gm4jh.com/), is writing an article called Guerilla Job Marketing: Finding Your Best ColdFusion Job for the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update (http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly). He asked me for some feedback. David wants to know what information will make this article an article that our readers will want to keep forever. What are our pain points when it comes to job hunting? So speak up, fellow CF'ers. What information would you like him to cover in this article? Your help is much appreciated! Judith Dinowitz Editor-in-Chief Fusion Authority ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3038 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: Independent Consultants
Jeffry, Yes, you read it write. I work with another company that does the payroll and taxes work and I will be doing the billing part. I've talked to many independent consultants over the years and many have complained about having to do the tax work and don't mind paying a small fee to someone else to do it for them. As for recruiting firms, the difference here is that my client is the consultant, NOT the client. Recruiting firms have a fiduciary responsibility to their client. In this case, MY customer is the consultant and I'm providing a service for themthey are providing the service to their client. The client is theirs, not mine. I'm trying to help with tasks that take them off the important things they do like working billable hours. Although some people may bill their invoicing time, I haven't heard of anyone who bills the time they take to do their quarterly tax payments and researching tax law to ensure they are doing the right stuff regarding taxes. Also, I didn't say that I was starting something no one else does. I too have come across a few other companies out there who do something similar. My goal is to do it better and cheaper than others. Sincerely, Dave Phillips WebTech Staffing, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] (402) 896-8801 -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 9:48 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Independent Consultants I hate to turn this into a flame bait, but... Did you just start a company doing the exact thing you said you hated? It doesn't sound like a recipe for success. Don't a lot of recruiting firms work this way (where the consultants are employees of the recruiting firm)/ At 09:57 AM 6/9/2006, Dave Phillips wrote: Hi all, I have been an independent consultant for years, doing ColdFusion for over 8 years, and one of the things I hated most was dealing with my taxes, estimated quarterly payments, blah, blah, blah. As a result, I have now formed a new company and one of the services I'm providing for other independent consultants is a billing and payroll service. Basically, it works like this: You have your clients and do your work for them. When you are ready to bill them, you provide their contact info and your billing information (company name, logo, amount of work, cost, etc.) and I invoice your client for you. Your client then sends in a check and you are then paid as an employee of my company. I take care of all the withholding for your taxes (you're still paying your SE Social Security taxes, it's just coming out automatically for you) and reporting to the IRS. As far as the IRS is concerned, you are an employee of my company (WebTech Staffing, LLC). As a result, at the end of the year, you get a W-2 and do your taxes like every other normal soul who doesn't have to deal with self-employment taxes. So basically, my service is there to take the burden of invoicing, payroll and tax handling off of the independent consultant so they can focus on what they do best: consulting. Another nice benefit is that once I have enough consultants on board, we can apply as a group for health and other insurance and not have to be singled out for individual health plans! There are other benefits we can access as well (401k, Cafeteria plan, etc.) If you're interested in finding out more, please contact me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't have a website put together yet, because this is just getting off the ground. However, I have owned my own company with many employees for years, so even though I'm just starting this service, I am not new to all the regulations and requirements for this area. Happy consulting! Sincerely, Dave Phillips WebTech Staffing, LLC (402) 896-8801 -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com Now Blogging at http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:3026 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Independent Consultants
Dave Phillips wrote: Yes, you read it write. Of course, apparently, I cannot spell, so you should NOT hire me for my spellchecking skillsthat was supposed to say Yes, you read it right. Sheesh, it's too early in the morning for me to be writing an e-mail I supposed. :) Dave -Original Message- From: Dave Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 6:45 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: RE: Independent Consultants Jeffry, Yes, you read it write. I work with another company that does the payroll and taxes work and I will be doing the billing part. I've talked to many independent consultants over the years and many have complained about having to do the tax work and don't mind paying a small fee to someone else to do it for them. As for recruiting firms, the difference here is that my client is the consultant, NOT the client. Recruiting firms have a fiduciary responsibility to their client. In this case, MY customer is the consultant and I'm providing a service for themthey are providing the service to their client. The client is theirs, not mine. I'm trying to help with tasks that take them off the important things they do like working billable hours. Although some people may bill their invoicing time, I haven't heard of anyone who bills the time they take to do their quarterly tax payments and researching tax law to ensure they are doing the right stuff regarding taxes. Also, I didn't say that I was starting something no one else does. I too have come across a few other companies out there who do something similar. My goal is to do it better and cheaper than others. Sincerely, Dave Phillips WebTech Staffing, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] (402) 896-8801 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:3027 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Independent Consultants
Hi all, I have been an independent consultant for years, doing ColdFusion for over 8 years, and one of the things I hated most was dealing with my taxes, estimated quarterly payments, blah, blah, blah. As a result, I have now formed a new company and one of the services I'm providing for other independent consultants is a billing and payroll service. Basically, it works like this: You have your clients and do your work for them. When you are ready to bill them, you provide their contact info and your billing information (company name, logo, amount of work, cost, etc.) and I invoice your client for you. Your client then sends in a check and you are then paid as an employee of my company. I take care of all the withholding for your taxes (you're still paying your SE Social Security taxes, it's just coming out automatically for you) and reporting to the IRS. As far as the IRS is concerned, you are an employee of my company (WebTech Staffing, LLC). As a result, at the end of the year, you get a W-2 and do your taxes like every other normal soul who doesn't have to deal with self-employment taxes. So basically, my service is there to take the burden of invoicing, payroll and tax handling off of the independent consultant so they can focus on what they do best: consulting. Another nice benefit is that once I have enough consultants on board, we can apply as a group for health and other insurance and not have to be singled out for individual health plans! There are other benefits we can access as well (401k, Cafeteria plan, etc.) If you're interested in finding out more, please contact me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't have a website put together yet, because this is just getting off the ground. However, I have owned my own company with many employees for years, so even though I'm just starting this service, I am not new to all the regulations and requirements for this area. Happy consulting! Sincerely, Dave Phillips WebTech Staffing, LLC (402) 896-8801 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:3017 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Looking for part-time offsite Cold Fusion work
Hello, I am a Cold Fusion developer with 7 1/2 years experience programming specifically in Cold Fusion with MS SQL (and a little bit of Access from time to time) and over 16 years of programming experience overall. I'm looking for part-time programming work that I can do during the evenings/weekends timeframe. If you're interested, please contact me for an MS Word copy of my resume and a detail of my Cold Fusion experience. Thanks! Sincerely, Dave Phillips BizBreeze.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 918-398-0278 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2683 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Cold Fusion Job Resources
Hi all, I don't seem to find a list of sites that are good resources for finding Cold Fusion work and wondering if anyone would like to contribute their list to this thread. I'll start out with some of the basic ones I've found several on: http://www.CareerBuilder.com http://www.Monster.com http://JustColdFusionJobs.com Also, I'm wondering if anyone has ever come across a 'master' job agent -- in other words, a job agent that you can specify keywords and it finds jobs on multiple sites (instead of registering with 20 separate job agents). Thanks! Dave ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2670 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
