Re: musings

2008-10-26 Thread Jeffry Houser
JB Roth wrote:
 Perhaps this is more of a negotiation, and this is their first offer?  Have
 you considered a counter-offer?

 As for layoffs, as an independent consultant, I understand you can be
 layed-off at a moments notice, no questions asked.  

 I believe it really depends on the contract you have with your client. 


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musings...

2008-10-24 Thread kbutte...@yahoo.com kbutte...@yahoo.com
Some musings for a Friday...

Just got another offer from one of my consulting clients to come on board 
full-time.  A bit of background: I've been coding for close to 20 years, CF for 
10 years. I currently have three clients: a local county government, a major 
local utility and a national financial services firm.  

The utility has just asked me to come on board as an employee.  They are my 
primary client; I currently work for them for between 30 and 40 hours a week.  
I work from home four days a week and work on-site one day. 

So they offer me a permanent jobBUT I won't be able to telecommute (maybe 
one day a week), I will only get one week vacation (I generally take three full 
weeks and lots of long weekends) to start and my starting salary will be half 
of my billable rate.  Even taking into account the cost of paying my own 
payroll tax, it's still a huge cut.

So, my musing is Why do these companies think that consultants will accept 
these offers?  If they really want to hire us, why aren't they more flexible?  
Or are they just asking on the off chance that they can get us cheap?  

This is not the first time I have been asked to come full-time, either by this 
client or others.  In each case I would have been giving up so much and for 
what?  In today's world, taking a full-time position does not give you greater 
job security than being a consultant.  I have seen two rounds of layoffs at one 
client site, but there was never a question of letting me go.

Just musing...

Kathryn 

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Re: musings...

2008-10-24 Thread morchella
because they mhey not use you as a consultant any longer...they mhey be
trying to cut costs  hire some one they can count on as every thing shrinks
inward.

i would take a full time gig with benefits over loosing a client that feeds
you 40 hours a week.
then again, i may take a 25k pay cut to cut out a 12 hour commute a week...
600 miles... and much anger...

money is not


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