[CF-metadata] date and time

2008-10-24 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear John I generally agree with your summary. I think it's fair to say that the Standard Name only implies a format restriction in the context of a COARDS/CF file. Yes. 'time' is a representation of any chronological parameter, even if just a day or a year; typically it represents a

[CF-metadata] CF standard names for chemical constituents and aerosols

2008-10-24 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Martina In summary, am I right that we agreed on: tendency_of_atmosphere_mass_content_of_X_due_to_respiration : kg.m-2.s-1 tendency_of_mole_concentration_of_X_in_air_due_to_chemical_gross_production : mol.m-3.s-1

[CF-metadata] standard names for chemistry

2008-10-24 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Martin and Philip I am not quite sure I understand options (i) and (ii). I think that the standard name (mole concentration, mass concentration, etc.) defines the physical units. The species does not; it just fills the gaps in the standard name where species are allowed. If any species could

Re: [CF-metadata] CF standard names for chemical constituents and aerosols

2008-10-24 Thread Schultz, Martin
Hi Martina, thanks for your valuable comments. 2. Martin/Jonathan concerning syntax definition for chemical quantities basically the physical_quantity_of_X_in_medium_as_identity level of Martina's proposal Actually, for me the 'as_identity' was part of the constituent X, e.g.

[CF-metadata] CF standard names for chemical constituents and aerosols

2008-10-24 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Martin What you would propose, if I understand correctly, is to continue to decide on each chemically related standard name individually, in order to make sure they are all valid. (That is what I meant by preventing nonsense in a previous email.) Is that right? This would not then be a

Re: [CF-metadata] CF standard names for chemical constituents and aerosols

2008-10-24 Thread Martina Stockhause
Dear Jonathan and Martin, This is why I was trying to point out that CF doesn't need to keep separate lists for X, A, G, or any other set of species. We will only need a single list of species: X. Where is the information then for a physical quantity for an aerosol that only part

[CF-metadata] Standard name(s) needed for satellite-based ice drift products

2008-10-24 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Thomas eastward_sea_ice_displacement [m] (length of [lon0,lon1] on Earth surface) northward_sea_ice_displacement[m] (length of [lat0,lat1] on Earth surface) sea_ice_x_displacement[m] (length from P0 to P1, taken along the grid's X axis) sea_ice_y_displacement

Re: [CF-metadata] date and time

2008-10-24 Thread John Graybeal
Uh, to an observing systems/cyberinfrastructure person, ALL time values have errors, _especially_ those from devices. (As if the system time isn't originally from a device, for that matter. But I digress.) So actually, I find reported_time to be more suggestive of absolute real-world

Re: [CF-metadata] date and time

2008-10-24 Thread Nan Galbraith
For the case where there are multiple variables with different sensor times in a NetCDF file, the 'sensor time' standard name somehow needs to be tied to the data variable produced by that sensor - can this be a compound term that includes the standard name of another variable?