Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-27 Thread John Graybeal
I have no concern about whether this stream needs labeling. My concern is whether you are defining something in the definition which is in no way described by the label, and which will prevent that label being used for other variables in other streams. Put another way, what should the model

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-27 Thread Lowry, Roy K
Hi John, Simple pragmatism. It's what a BPR data stream tends to contain and so it needs labelling. Cheers, Roy. From: John Graybeal [jbgrayb...@mindspring.com] Sent: 27 January 2010 16:41 To: Lowry, Roy K Cc: Jeff deLaBeaujardiere; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-27 Thread John Graybeal
Any particular reason that you are biased for this name representing only a short-term value? Seems to me there is equally the need for a (measured or modeled) value that would be defined exactly the same way, but without the time qualifiers. In general, when CF has a measured observable,

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-27 Thread Jeff deLaBeaujardiere
'sea_floor_depth_below_sea_surface' would be fine. Is there a vote or process for adding it? Thanks for the note about pressure--we do not currently report it from this server, but could add it in future. -Jeff Lowry, Roy K wrote: Dear All, I think a new Standard Name 'sea_floor_depth_below_

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-27 Thread Lowry, Roy K
Hello Olivier, The geoid is defined as 'a surface of constant geopotential with which mean sea level would coincide if the ocean were at rest', so to my thinking 'sea_surface_height_above_geoid' is approximately the distance between the actual sea surface and mean sea level, whereas what Jeff i

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-27 Thread olivier lauret
Hello Roy, Hello Jeff, Just to feed the debate: that in CF table there is also the quantity 'sea_surface_height_above_geoid'. That could be a possibility too, I think? Cheers, Olivier. -Message d'origine- DeĀ : cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu]

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-27 Thread Lowry, Roy K
Dear All, I think a new Standard Name 'sea_floor_depth_below_sea_surface' is what's needed here. My definition for this would be 'The vertical distance between the sea surface and the seabed at a given point in space and at a given instant in time or averaged over a time interval that is signi