Re: [CF-metadata] new standard names request

2017-02-27 Thread Steve Emmerson
ventions-expressing-values-quantities >. END RANT Thanks for letting me get this off my chest. :-) Regards, Steve Emmerson On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Allen Jordan - NOAA Affiliate < allen.jor...@noaa.gov> wrote: > I would like to add two standard names for the NOAA GMD

Re: [CF-metadata] Temporal nitpicks. Was: CF-metadata Digest, Vol 161, Issue 3

2016-09-22 Thread Steve Emmerson
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Chris Barker <chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote: > I think UDUnits does not use a T but maybe it will accept it. > UDUNITS accepts the "T" and can print it. Regards, Steve Emmerson ___ CF-metadata ma

Re: [CF-metadata] Temporal nitpicks. Was: CF-metadata Digest, Vol 161, Issue 3

2016-09-15 Thread Steve Emmerson
Just FYI, the UDUNITS-2 package accepts ISO 8601-compliant timestamps like the following: 2016-01-01T05:04:03-0600 2016-01-01T05:04:03Z Regards, Steve Emmerson ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name for mass_fraction_of_petroleum_in_sea_water

2016-06-30 Thread Steve Emmerson
"Mass fraction" is a well-defined term and, yes, "ppb" isn't in the sense that it doesn't specify what a "part" is. For names of these types of quantities, I highly recommend section 8.6.2 of <http://www.nist.gov/pml/pubs/sp811/sec08.cfm>. Regards, Steve Emm

Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2015-01-08 Thread Steve Emmerson
by UDUNITS) then all would be well. Regards, Steve Emmerson On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk wrote: Dear Maarten and Steve I think you meant to say that if a physical quantity has a different dimensionality (not unit), then we have to give it a different

Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2015-01-07 Thread Steve Emmerson
., converting between altitude and pressure). Such a package would be easily capable of handling Maarten's conversion. Regards, Steve Emmerson On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk wrote: Dear Maarten A mole is also a udunit, so mol m-3 and m-3 are different

Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2014-11-27 Thread Steve Emmerson
and the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics have also created such libraries). Please don't request that the UDUNTS package be polluted in order to do a job that's best done elsewhere. With regards, Steve Emmerson (I feel better now. Thanks! :-) ___ CF

Re: [CF-metadata] mole_concentration_of_air_in_air?

2014-07-02 Thread Steve Emmerson
at the above URL. Regards, Steve Emmerson On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 5:40 AM, alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: Dear Andreas, This might sound like a silly question, but what do you mean by air? Do you mean just the mixture of gases or do you mean everything that might be found in a random sample

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-22 Thread Steve Emmerson
On 03/21/2013 02:12 PM, John Maurer wrote: I believe the canonical units in UDUNITS parlance would translate to m-3, which is what I find in the standard name table for other number_concentration_* quantities. Yup. If the dimension of the physical quantity is number per volume, then the SI

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-22 Thread Steve Emmerson
On 03/22/2013 03:57 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: An additional point is that I would prefer not to have the semantics of what was measured encoded into the units of measure. I couldn't agree more. The NIST also agrees. See sections 7.4 and 7.5 of http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP811/sec07.html.

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name: datetime_iso8601

2013-03-21 Thread Steve Emmerson
John, On 03/21/2013 09:25 AM, John Caron wrote: 1. ... Unfortunately, udunits used a slightly non-standard syntax ... More correctly, the UDUNITS packages accept the ISO standard syntax as well as some non-standard syntaxes. I believe this is an example of no good deed (being generous in what

Re: [CF-metadata] When are the units attribute mandatory?

2012-02-16 Thread Steve Emmerson
Egil, Units of physical quantities are only meaningful for physical quantities (yes, I know that's a tautology :-). Is the profile_id a physical quantity? I wouldn't think so from its name. If it isn't, then a unit attribute would be meaningless and possibly misleading. Regards, Steve

Re: [CF-metadata] udunits corresponding to Forel-Ule, milliequivalent

2011-12-08 Thread Steve Emmerson
Upendra, From the perspective of the UDUNITS unit-packages, the unit Forel-Ule is the unit Forel multiplied by the unit Ule -- neither, of which, is known by the UDUNITS or UDUNITS2 packages. I suggest you contact the author. Regards, Steve Emmerson On 12/08/2011 09:05 AM, Upendra Dadi wrote

Re: [CF-metadata] Is the bits unit CF-compliant?

2011-09-30 Thread Steve Emmerson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian, On 09/30/2011 01:00 AM, Culverwell, Ian wrote: Does singularbit/singular mean that bits (plural) is not a valid unit? The unit bits is automatically created and added from the unit bit if the entry doesn't have a plural tag, which is used

Re: [CF-metadata] Is the bits unit CF-compliant?

2011-09-29 Thread Steve Emmerson
/singular /name /aliases /unit to the installed file $prefix/share/udunits/udunits2-common.xml, where $prefix is the pathname of the top-level installation-directory for the UDUNITS-2 package. I recommend adding them immediately after the definition for the unit count. Regards, Steve

Re: [CF-metadata] physical vs dimensional units

2011-04-15 Thread Steve Emmerson
John, On 04/14/2011 08:09 PM, John Caron wrote: Im thinking that ne wants a grammer that allows mole X / mole * mole/ mole X = 1 mole X / mole * mole/ mole Y= mole X/ mole Y and so on. I wonder if this list could accumulate a list of such examples. In my opinion, the semantics of

Re: [CF-metadata] physical vs dimensional units

2011-04-13 Thread Steve Emmerson
, the Y-axis of a plot could be labeled Amount of Substance Fraction of Carbon / 1e-9 to plot nanomoles of carbon per mole of whatever. Regards, Steve Emmerson ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo

Re: [CF-metadata] physical vs dimensional units

2011-04-04 Thread Steve Emmerson
.e-9 in this case). Indeed. In my opinion, every display application should allow the user to specify non-default output units. Regards, Steve Emmerson ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf

Re: [CF-metadata] udunits handling of fuzzy time units

2011-03-18 Thread Steve Emmerson
, the UDUNITS package does assume the first day of the year at 00:00:00 UTC if additional resolution time-fields are omitted. This conforms to the ISO standard. Regards, Steve Emmerson ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu http

Re: [CF-metadata] udunits handling of fuzzy time units

2011-03-16 Thread Steve Emmerson
library -- one around which the library is designed -- is the idea that units have constant size; hence, Caron's and my suggestion for use of a separate, calendar-handling library. Regards, Steve Emmerson UDUNITS developer ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF

Re: [CF-metadata] udunits handling of fuzzy time units

2011-03-15 Thread Steve Emmerson
a lot of data stored on monthly and yearly time centers -- and more being created every day. The question is how to handle it. Regards, Steve Emmerson ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf

Re: [CF-metadata] units for sea water salinity

2010-08-04 Thread Steve Emmerson
that the Practical Salinity Scale (PSS) was used. Upendra, is this acceptable? Regards, Steve Emmerson UDUNITS developer ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata

Re: [CF-metadata] Andrew Clegg: udunits 1 or 2 for CF?

2010-03-04 Thread Steve Emmerson
themselves in the foot that way. Regards, Steve Emmerson On 03/04/2010 08:11 AM, Nan Galbraith wrote: Hi Steve - Are all the terms in the new vocabulary backwards compatible, other than non-ASCII characters and log units? I just spent some time looking on the unidata web site to see if I could

Re: [CF-metadata] UDUNITS 1 or 2 for CF?

2010-03-04 Thread Steve Emmerson
compiler. 2. I've subscribed to the cf-metadata mailing-list (at least for the duration of the UDUNITS storm :-). Regards, Steve Emmerson ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata