Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2012-01-05 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Etienne To summarise so far: the new parameters required are horizontal_datum_name towgs84 (an array of float or double, with 3,6 or 7 values) prime_meridian_name reference_ellipsoid_name projected_coordinate_system_name geographic_coordinate_system_name coordinate system names are

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2012-01-01 Thread Etienne Tourigny
Jonathan, thank you for your reply. On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk wrote: Dear Etienne Thanks for your posting of 13 Dec and apologies again for slow reply. = In light of all this,  could we add datum_name, datum_code and towgs84 to

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-12-30 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Etienne Thanks for your posting of 13 Dec and apologies again for slow reply. = In light of all this, could we add datum_name, datum_code and towgs84 to grid_mapping? I think we should call it horizontal_datum_name (since there are also vertical datums). We also need various other names

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-12-13 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Etienne Thanks for your helpful email, and sorry for slow response. Ok you mean that we could add new projections easily to the CF standard? That's great to know. Yes, you could do this with a trac ticket, like ticket 72, which proposes to add the geos projection. See

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-12-13 Thread Karl Taylor
Hi Jeff, Do you know how Etienne can get access to trac? thanks, Karl On 12/13/11 9:35 AM, Etienne Tourigny wrote: Jon, thanks for your answers On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk wrote: Dear Etienne Thanks for your helpful email, and sorry for

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-12-13 Thread Karl Taylor
] Question on WKT representation of CRS Anthony has graciously and rapidly created an account for me (I sent an email to webmaster@) Thanks, Etienne On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Karl Taylortaylo...@llnl.gov wrote: Hi Jeff, Do you know how Etienne can get access to trac? thanks, Karl On 12/13/11

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-12-05 Thread Etienne Tourigny
Ok you mean that we could add new projections easily to the CF standard? That's great to know. I'm not sure I understand your question - do you mean to ask if these additions to CF would be sufficient to describe most WKT definitions in pure CF metadata (without the WKT)? By all means my

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-11-21 Thread Etienne Tourigny
Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk - Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 09:56:01 + From: Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Fwd: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS Dear all It would be very helpful if those who are familiar

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-11-21 Thread Etienne Tourigny
- Forwarded message from Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk - Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 09:56:01 + From: Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Fwd: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS Dear all It would be very

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-10 Thread Heiko Klein
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS Hi, I think the CF-approach of being self-explanatory rather than to rely on external tables/database has worked very well so far. If I understand this thread correctly, the question is how to describe a CRS. I would rather like

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-07 Thread Upendra Dadi
: Heiko Klein heiko.kl...@met.no To: Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS Hi, I think the CF-approach of being self-explanatory rather than to rely on external

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-06 Thread Bentley, Philip
Hi all, Polite request: can folks not attach names - well, at least not mine! - to message subject lines. Although it may temporarily boost one's google rating :-) it can also give the impression that the named person endorses the views and opinions expressed in the message. Which may or may not

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip)

2011-10-06 Thread TOYODA Eizi
AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley,Philip) Hi Bryan, I suspect it probably is becoming important for weather forecast output now. At the Met Office, we're now generating 2km post-processed forecast data (from models running at up 1.5km resolution

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-06 Thread Jon Blower
-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Gregory Sent: 06 October 2011 14:26 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS Dear all I agree with Seth and Bryan in the point made earlier by Balaji

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-06 Thread David Blodgett
to the usual CF guidelines. Hope this helps, Jon -Original Message- From: cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Gregory Sent: 06 October 2011 14:26 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip) (Kennedy, Paul)

2011-10-06 Thread TOYODA Eizi
To: TOYODA Eizi toy...@gfd-dennou.org; Patrick Sunter patdeve...@gmail.com; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:18 PM Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley,Philip) (Kennedy, Paul) Hi nope (for me at least!). We do it regularly

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-06 Thread Jim Biard
Hi. I worked in a previous career phase with photogrammetry and GIS. Precise knowledge of the coordinate system is often critical in these domains. I appreciate the concern about the opacity of the WKT or proj4 text blocks, but I don't think it is wise to develop what will amount to yet

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-06 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear all I agree that we should not reinvent in CF what has already been thought out elsewhere if we can help it. This point is often made in the development of CF. However I think we should restrict our attention to what is really needed in CF i.e. for which there are already use-cases. In my

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip)

2011-10-06 Thread Wright, Bruce
@cgd.ucar.edu Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley,Philip) Hi Bryan, I suspect it probably is becoming important for weather forecast output now. At the Met Office, we're now generating 2km post-processed forecast data

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-06 Thread Seth McGinnis
ArcGIS already reads and writes netCDF but doesn't pay any attention to the CF projection information as it stands. Untrue, actually; as of v.9.3+, you can directly import CF-compliant NetCDF as a raster using the Multidimension Tools. The map projection metadata has to follow CF

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip) (Kennedy, Paul)

2011-10-05 Thread Kennedy, Paul
-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley,Philip) (Kennedy, Paul) Dears, Is it difficult to register a new EPSG code? I'm curious since I haven't tried, but they seem trying to be open to new proposal. Best Regards, -- Eizi TOYODA twitter.com

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip) (Kennedy, Paul)

2011-10-05 Thread Pop, Zamfir FCIH
Message- From: cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of TOYODA Eizi Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 9:16 AM To: Kennedy, Paul; Patrick Sunter; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley,Philip

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip)

2011-10-05 Thread David Blodgett
in a normal workflow. Cheers, Dave - Reply message - From: Bryan Lawrence bryan.lawre...@ncas.ac.uk Date: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:52 am Subject: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip) To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Hi Seth I haven't read all the threads ... but I

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip)

2011-10-05 Thread Wright, Bruce
...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Bryan Lawrence Sent: 05 October 2011 12:52 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley,Philip) Hi Seth I haven't read all the threads ... but I strongly agree with your last paragraph! I have had many conversations

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip)

2011-10-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear all Patrick's example is useful. DATUM[Geocentric_Datum_of_Australia_1994, SPHEROID[GRS 1980,6378137,298.2572221010042, AUTHORITY[EPSG,7019]], TOWGS84[0,0,0,0,0,0,0], AUTHORITY[EPSG,6283]], PRIMEM[Greenwich,0],

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip)

2011-10-04 Thread Kennedy, Paul
...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Seth McGinnis Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 6:50 AM To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip) On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 15:28:15 +0100 Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk wrote: The CF convention

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip)

2011-10-04 Thread Etienne Tourigny
-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Seth McGinnis Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 6:50 AM To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip) On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 15:28:15 +0100  Jonathan

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip)

2011-10-04 Thread Etienne Tourigny
McGinnis Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 6:50 AM To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip) On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 15:28:15 +0100  Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk wrote: The CF convention as it stands can say a lot less

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-03 Thread Bentley, Philip
-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Ethan Davis Sent: 01 October 2011 07:49 To: CF metadata Subject: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS Hi Phil, all, This latest round of discussion around using CRS WKT reminded me of a few

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-03 Thread Kennedy, Paul
metadata Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS Hi Ethan, All good questions! I've provided some brief - and probably inadequate - responses inline. I've been working up an initial (reasonably concise) proposal covering this topic, which potentially I could upload

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-03 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Phil It's a good thing you're working on this and I'll be interested to see the proposal. I'd like to anticipate what concerns I might have (of course these are just my views) based on other initiatives to support the use of other conventions in CF, which is obviously a good idea if we can

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS (Bentley, Philip)

2011-10-03 Thread Patrick Sunter
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:04 PM, cf-metadata-requ...@cgd.ucar.edu wrote: Message: 3 Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:49:42 +0100 From: Bentley, Philip philip.bent...@metoffice.gov.uk Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS To: Ethan Davis eda...@unidata.ucar.edu,    CF

[CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-01 Thread Ethan Davis
Hi Phil, all, This latest round of discussion around using CRS WKT reminded me of a few questions: 1) How easy is it to form a WKT that has good interoperability between different client libraries? I've had multiple WKT for the same CRS with differences in AUTHORITY, AXIS, and a few other