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Durack, Paul J.
Sent: 30 June 2015 18:23
To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edumailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
Subject: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
Apologies for coming to the party so late on this one folks.. I do believe
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From: CF-metadata [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of
Durack, Paul J.
Sent: 30 June 2015 18:23
To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
Subject: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
Apologies for coming to the party so late on this one folks.. I do believe that
before
Apologies for coming to the party so late on this one folks.. I do believe that
before progressing on changing the units for any of these variables, there
needs to be a consideration/revisitation of what is currently in place.
Back in 2011 when the TEOS-10 standard names were proposed we spent
Dear all
The bulk of archived CF-netCDF salinity data is probably the vast amounts of
CMIP ocean model data, so I don't think we can reinterpret what this means
more precisely, since models differ in which equations of state they use. Thus
sea_surface_salinity and sea_water_salinity are
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From: CF-metadata [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf
Of Nan Galbraith
Sent: 02 June 2015 15:47
To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
Hi All -
Can we move on this question?
I think the real problems with the unit .001
and report back.
Cheers, Roy.
From: alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk [alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk]
Sent: 02 June 2015 17:22
To: ngalbra...@whoi.edu; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
Dear Nan, All,
Reading through what you and Rich saying
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From: Reyna Jenkyns [re...@uvic.ca]
Sent: 22 May 2015 18:06
To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; OceanSITES Data Management Team; Nan Galbraith
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
I'm interested in this topic since I didn't realize what had been discussed
previously, and now I think we must be non
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
I'm interested in this topic since I didn't realize what had been discussed
previously, and now I think we must be non-compliant as well. Is this
documented formally in the CF documentation?
Reyna Jenkyns | Data Stewardship Team Lead - Digital Infrastructure
I went back to original concerns, as the discussion is a little bit here and
there. From this I conclude the canonical unit for P.S. should be changed to 1.
(For historians, I see there was a brief thread 2009.06.17 titled 'salinity
units', which started down the same question but then got
R25, 2.22
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From: CF-metadata [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Nan
Galbraith
Sent: 27 May 2015 15:45
To: Rich Pawlowicz
Cc:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
Hi all -
The '.001' units for P.S
-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; OceanSITES Data Management Team; Nan
Galbraith
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
I'm interested in this topic since I didn't realize what had been
discussed previously, and now I think we must be non-compliant as
well. Is this documented formally in the CF
-metadata [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Nan
Galbraith
Sent: 27 May 2015 15:45
To: Rich Pawlowicz
Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
Hi all -
The '.001' units for P.S. doesn't mean that stored values of practical
salinity differs from A.S
Management Team; Nan Galbraith
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
I'm interested in this topic since I didn't realize what had been discussed
previously, and now I think we must be non-compliant as well. Is this
documented formally in the CF documentation?
Reyna Jenkyns | Data
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Sent: 22 May 2015 20:01
To: Lowry, Roy K.
Cc: Reyna Jenkyns; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; OceanSITES Data Management Team;
Nan Galbraith; Richard Pawlowicz
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
Roy,
For sure dimensionless. But 1.0, 0.001 or g/kg?
The latest version (27) of the CF
respect.
Cheers, Roy.
From: Reyna Jenkyns [re...@uvic.ca]
Sent: 22 May 2015 18:06
To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; OceanSITES Data Management Team; Nan Galbraith
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
I'm interested in this topic since I didn't realize
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Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:03 AM
To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; OceanSITES Data Management Team
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
Hello all -
It's been a long time, but is anyone interested in re-visiting the subject
of units for practical salinity in CF?
I was recently notified
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Subject: Fwd: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
FYI
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Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 13:03:24 -0400
From: Nan Galbraith ngalbra...@whoi.edumailto:ngalbra...@whoi.edu
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Hello all -
It's been a long time, but is anyone interested in re-visiting the subject
of units for practical salinity in CF?
I was recently notified that my salinity data was likely to be
overlooked by
some users, because I'd used '1' as the units, not '.001'. Somehow, I'd
forgotten the
Galbraith
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
I'm interested in this topic since I didn't realize what had been discussed
previously, and now I think we must be non-compliant as well. Is this
documented formally in the CF documentation?
Reyna Jenkyns | Data Stewardship Team Lead - Digital
-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; OceanSITES Data Management Team
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
Hello all -
It's been a long time, but is anyone interested in re-visiting the subject
of units for practical salinity in CF?
I was recently notified that my salinity data was likely to be
overlooked by
some
Karl,
We are using dB for one of the radar reflectivity fields that will be
collected as part of CMIP5. So, I second Jonathan's suggestion to allow
dB as a unit in udunits. No one has ever mentioned to me what the
reference level for this field is, so I'm afraid it won't be part of
Dear All,
During an exercise with Alison mapping the CF Standard Names to a units
vocabulary in the BODC vocabulary server I noticed that the units for salinity
were '1.00E-03', i.e. parts per thousand. My understanding in that since the
introduction of the Practical Salinity Scale that
Dear Roy and Alison
The intention of recording the units as 1e-3 (dimensionless) was to suggest
a canonical unit of PSU i.e. approximately the same as parts per thousand.
However, this is unclear and therefore unsatisfactory. We have discussed this
before, in fact, and I believe we have decided
Dear Roy
The reason I'm resurrecting this discussion is that we came under strong
pressure from a group of physical oceanographers to use 'dimensionless' with
no scaling factor instead of PSU for salinity. I was raising the issue on
the list to see how widespread this opinion was.
Yes, I
to throw in an oceanographers viewpoint...
measured salinity has no units - it is determined from conductivity
and has no relationship to ppt, ppm psu or any other unit.
10-3 seems very dangerous (and equally wrong)
the only 'units' used recently (officially) are to state 'pss78' to
define
Jonathan,
The intention of recording the units as 1e-3 (dimensionless) was to
suggest a canonical unit of PSU i.e. approximately the same as parts
per thousand. However, this is unclear and therefore
unsatisfactory. We have discussed this before, in fact, and I believe
we have decided in
Dear Russ
I think it's a good development for udunits to support logarithmic units.
In CF standard names, however, we have taken the approach of stating the
reference level as part of the definition of the quantity, possibly allowing
it to be specified alternatively in a scalar coordinate
to see how widespread this opinion was.
Cheers, Roy.
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[mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Gregory
Sent: 17 June 2009 08:06
To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
Subject: [CF-metadata] Salinity units
Dear
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