Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-22 Thread Heinke Höck
I like this discussion because I learned a lot about rdf and the application. From the view of persistent identifier I would say a persistent identifier needs a persistent object. URIs and URLs are not persistent but what is the object behind it and what are the metadata of the object? The

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-20 Thread Benno Blumenthal
2010 16:13 To: John Graybeal; Jeff deLaBeaujardiere Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? It would seem that the two conflicting requirements, which I'll caricature as rigorous version control and pragmatic usability, could go some way

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-17 Thread Hattersley, Richard
: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? I offer my two cents on versioned terms, prompted by the 'absolutely right' phrasing :-. I am firmly straddling the fence on this question. There are multiple science users and many technical opinions that say

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-17 Thread John Graybeal
To: John Graybeal; Jeff deLaBeaujardiere Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? It would seem that the two conflicting requirements, which I'll caricature as rigorous version control and pragmatic usability, could go some way to being reconciled

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-17 Thread John Graybeal
Of Hattersley, Richard Sent: 17 December 2010 16:13 To: John Graybeal; Jeff deLaBeaujardiere Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? It would seem that the two conflicting requirements, which I'll caricature as rigorous version control

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-16 Thread Bryan Lawrence
-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Benno Blumenthal Sent: 15 December 2010 22:23 To: Bryan Lawrence Cc: John Graybeal; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; Steve Hankin Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? I was hoping that this conversation would end on Bryan's statement

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-16 Thread Jeff deLaBeaujardiere
Graybeal Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? On 2010-12-14 12:56, John Graybeal wrote: Just to be crystal clear, the places where you have '16' could also have 'current' (if I understand correctly what Roy was saying about their server

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-15 Thread Bryan Lawrence
-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of John Graybeal [jbgrayb...@mindspring.com] Sent: 14 December 2010 17:56 To: Steve Hankin Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? In theory, MMI can support

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-15 Thread Benno Blumenthal
] On Behalf Of John Graybeal [jbgrayb...@mindspring.com] Sent: 14 December 2010 17:56 To: Steve Hankin Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? In theory, MMI can support that approach (redirecting cfconventions.org, ideally transparently

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-14 Thread Dominic Lowe
...@cgd.ucar.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Graybeal *Sent:* 13 December 2010 22:28 *To:* Benno Blumenthal *Cc:* cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? A minor clarification as to how MMI is doing things: Benno, all, On Dec 13, 2010, at 07:25, Benno Blumenthal wrote

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-14 Thread John Graybeal
. *From:* cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Graybeal *Sent:* 13 December 2010 22:28 *To:* Benno Blumenthal *Cc:* cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? A minor clarification as to how

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-14 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
...@cgd.ucar.edu [cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of John Graybeal [jbgrayb...@mindspring.com] Sent: 14 December 2010 17:56 To: Steve Hankin Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? In theory, MMI can support that approach (redirecting

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-13 Thread Benno Blumenthal
We have tried to get standard URIs for CF concepts, but the effort bogged down. As for standard names, MMI established a set of URIs at http://marinemetadata.org/cf but has not been keeping up to date. I have written a XSL transform at

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-13 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? We have tried to get standard URIs for CF concepts, but the effort bogged down. As for standard names, MMI established a set of URIs at http://marinemetadata.org/cf but has not been keeping up to date. I have

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-13 Thread Carlos Rueda
@cgd.ucar.edu *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? We have tried to get standard URIs for CF concepts, but the effort bogged down. As for standard names, MMI established a set of URIs at http://marinemetadata.org/cf but has not been keeping up to date. I have written

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-13 Thread John Graybeal
A minor clarification as to how MMI is doing things: Benno, all, On Dec 13, 2010, at 07:25, Benno Blumenthal wrote: We have tried to get standard URIs for CF concepts, but the effort bogged down. As for standard names, MMI established a set of URIs at http://marinemetadata.org/cf

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-13 Thread Benno Blumenthal
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:27 PM, John Graybeal jbgrayb...@mindspring.comwrote: A minor clarification as to how MMI is doing things: Benno, all, On Dec 13, 2010, at 07:25, Benno Blumenthal wrote: We have tried to get standard URIs for CF concepts, but the effort bogged down. As for