Re: [CF-metadata] Help needed with area_type and "surface type classification" datasets

2011-10-10 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Thomas > Proposed new standard name: sea_ice_classification > > Please comment and/or indicate if this is accepted and can be included in > next version of the CF standard name table. I think it is fine. Alison Pamment deals with updating the standard name table and I expect she will revie

Re: [CF-metadata] Help needed with area_type and "surface type classification" datasets

2011-10-10 Thread Thomas Lavergne
Dear Jonathan, and all, Since there was no further discussion on this subject, I would like to conclude it by proposing a new standard name for sea ice classification products. The definition I propose is strongly inspired by that of the "soil_type" standard name, but also refers to the WMO Sta

Re: [CF-metadata] Help needed with area_type and "surface type classification" datasets

2011-09-27 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Seth > Attached below are the 93 unique values for surface types from > these 3 models. If it looks like we could hash out the details > and extend the existing area_types list could be extended to > cover this list in fairly short order, then I think we can say > that the current system wil

Re: [CF-metadata] Help needed with area_type and "surface type classification" datasets

2011-09-26 Thread John Graybeal
Seth, I'm not sure it's a fair test. By way of piling onto Seth's point, though: When MMI did a vocabulary mapping workshop a long while ago, by far the least mappable set of vocabularies was habitat, which I think it is a fair analog to area_types. The problems (sic) with 'habitat' were that

Re: [CF-metadata] Help needed with area_type and "surface type classification" datasets

2011-09-26 Thread Seth McGinnis
Jonathan Gregory wrote: >> Do we get enough benefit by "standardizing" them >> [area-type names] to offset the cost in time and trouble >> of the growth of yet another complex name hierarchy? (I >> know. Some people will say "Yes!" I just have to ask.) > >It's a fair question. I am one of thos

Re: [CF-metadata] Help needed with area_type and "surface type classification" datasets

2011-09-26 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Thomas I think your arguments are persuasive for having a new standard_name of sea_ice_classification. The definition could refer to WMO's list with a URL. At a later point we might decide we could include the classification as new area_types, as you say, but this seems like a good compromise

Re: [CF-metadata] Help needed with area_type and "surface type classification" datasets

2011-09-23 Thread Thomas Lavergne
Dear Jonathan, and Jim, I must say Jim's soil_type example appeals to me. It is a pragmatic solution that would get my dataset rapidly into the CF convention. It would require minimal interaction with the CF table of area_type. I would feel strongly encouraged to use as many existing area_type

Re: [CF-metadata] Help needed with area_type and "surface type classification" datasets

2011-09-23 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Jim > If that is OK within the convention, the only issue I see is that > the convention states that names for area types *must* come from the > area type table. That seems unnecessarily restrictive to me, and > I'd encourage the deletion of the requirement. I know that more > table entries

Re: [CF-metadata] Help needed with area_type and "surface type classification" datasets

2011-09-23 Thread Jim Biard
Jonathan, If that is OK within the convention, the only issue I see is that the convention states that names for area types *must* come from the area type table. That seems unnecessarily restrictive to me, and I'd encourage the deletion of the requirement. I know that more table entries can

Re: [CF-metadata] Help needed with area_type and "surface type classification" datasets

2011-09-23 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Jim and Thomas It is fine to use flag_meanings to encode a string-valued field, as Jim suggests. It's been suggested before in other contexts. This is a kind of data compression and I don't think a special standard name is needed for it. It's still an area_type field. Best wishes Jonathan

Re: [CF-metadata] Help needed with area_type and "surface type classification" datasets

2011-09-22 Thread Jim Biard
Thomas, Is there a particular reason why you aren't using a single variable to indicate your different classifications? If you want to go with a variable that uses the standard name "area_type", it seems to me that it should be constructed like string sea_ice_type(time, xc, yc):

[CF-metadata] Help needed with area_type and "surface type classification" datasets

2011-09-22 Thread Thomas Lavergne
Dear all, This message is to revive (part of) a short-lived thread in the last days of May 2011. Jonathan was kind enough to answer some of my questions then, but it never ended in a definite solution to my problem, thus the need (for me) to revive the subject. I have a (satellite product) dat

Re: [CF-metadata] help

2011-02-23 Thread Karl Taylor
Any other opinions? Cheers, Roy. *From:* cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Karl Taylor [taylo...@llnl.gov] *Sent:* 23 February 2011 17:54 *To:* cristina.tronc...@artov.isac.cnr.it *Cc:* cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu *Subject:* Re: [C

Re: [CF-metadata] help

2011-02-23 Thread John Graybeal
y as it sounds. Any other opinions? > > Cheers, Roy. > From: cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On > Behalf Of Karl Taylor [taylo...@llnl.gov] > Sent: 23 February 2011 17:54 > To: cristina.tronc...@artov.isac.cnr.it > Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.uca

Re: [CF-metadata] help

2011-02-23 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
tronc...@artov.isac.cnr.it Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] help Hi Chritina, For dimensionless variables, you can either omit the units attribute or set it to "1". I don't understand why this error is raised. Did you assign a "standard_name" to C

Re: [CF-metadata] help

2011-02-23 Thread Karl Taylor
Hi Chritina, For dimensionless variables, you can either omit the units attribute or set it to "1". I don't understand why this error is raised. Did you assign a "standard_name" to CHL_count? If so, what did you assign? thanks, Karl On 2/23/11 6:48 AM, cristina.tronc...@artov.isac.cnr.it

[CF-metadata] help

2011-02-23 Thread cristina . tronconi
Hello, I have a problem. iN MY NETCDF FILE I define the CHL_count variable. it is a dimensionless variable. I used the "standard name modifier: COUNT" for the variable CHL. for IT I define: units="1" as indicated in the Appendix C of the "cf-conventions1_4.pdf". but the cf checker gives me

[CF-metadata] help with gaussian latitudes

2010-12-10 Thread John Caron
im looking at an grib1 file from Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling, downloaded here: http://cera-www.dkrz.de/WDCC/ui/Compact.jsp?acronym=CCCma_CGCM2_SRES_A2 the docs on that page says that "The atmospheric component AGCM2 is a spectral model with triangular truncation at wave no. 32 and 10