Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] udunits supports ppm, but documentation states it does not (#260)

2020-04-24 Thread Dave Allured
I support the original request. CF should accept well known units such as ppm and ppmv without error, warning, or prejudice. These only improve the information content, not detract. Such units are more meaningful to humans than current recommendations like "1" and "1e-6". -- You are

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] udunits supports ppm, but documentation states it does not (#260)

2020-04-24 Thread JonathanGregory
The last point, raised by Ryan @dopplershift, is of course a reasonable question and has been raised before. If others agree with my answer, we should put it in the FAQ. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] udunits supports ppm, but documentation states it does not (#260)

2020-04-24 Thread JonathanGregory
I agree with what has been said by @martinjuckes, @cameronsmith1 and @roy-lowry. I don't think dimensionless units should be used to distinguish between dimensionless quantities, since that's the purpose of standard names, but Roy's preference for explicitly describing the dimensionless ratios

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] udunits supports ppm, but documentation states it does not (#260)

2020-04-23 Thread Roy Lowry
I have always had a problem with the ambiguity of units like ppm. An oxygen measurement in the atmosphere in ppm could have two different values, one in mass/mass and the other in volume/volume. Consequently, the use of ppmv by some but my preference has always been to be semantically explicit

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] udunits supports ppm, but documentation states it does not (#260)

2020-04-22 Thread Philip Cameron-Smith
Hi @martinjuckes . I think you are correct, and I agree with you. Fortunately, if people don't follow what you say the consequence will probably be negligible. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] udunits supports ppm, but documentation states it does not (#260)

2020-04-22 Thread Martin
Hi @cameronsmith1 : I'm asking whether we accept them as defined in `udunits2`. In `udunits2`, `ppm` and `ppmv` are exactly equivalent and interchangeable. My opinion is closer to yours: these two units are similar, but not equivalent. Hence, it might be worth excluding `ppmv` and other

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] udunits supports ppm, but documentation states it does not (#260)

2020-04-22 Thread Philip Cameron-Smith
> Does this mean that we accept both `ppm` and `ppmv` (parts per million by > volume), which are equivalent in `udunits2` (i.e. they conform and `1 ppm = 1 > ppmv`)? I ask because this appears to stretch the concept of physical > equivalence of units. Hi @martinjuckes . I am not sure I

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] udunits supports ppm, but documentation states it does not (#260)

2020-04-22 Thread taylor13
thanks to @mathiasbockwoldt for pointing this out and to @JonathanGregory for proposed wording, which I support. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] udunits supports ppm, but documentation states it does not (#260)

2020-04-22 Thread Seth McGinnis
I think the proposed change sounds good, and I support it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/cf-convention/cf-conventions/issues/260#issuecomment-617927988 This list forwards relevant

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] udunits supports ppm, but documentation states it does not (#260)

2020-04-22 Thread JonathanGregory
Dear @mathiasbockwoldt Thanks for raising this. I am glad to learn that udunits has been updated! Since CF1.8 gives https://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/udunits/ as its reference for udunits, which means udunits 2 in effect, I agree that the text should be changed. We need to agree a

[CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] udunits supports ppm, but documentation states it does not (#260)

2020-04-22 Thread Mathias Bockwoldt
# Title udunits supports ppm, but documentation states it does not # Moderator None at the moment # Requirement Summary The documentation states that udunits does not support dimensionless ratios like parts-per-million. But udunits does support such units. # Technical Proposal Summary Change