Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Allow CRS WKT to represent the CRS without requiring comparison with grid mapping parameters (#222)

2020-01-03 Thread David Blodgett
Great strategy @JimBiardCics. Having contributed an attempted implementation to map CF conventions to WKT -- I know how error prone and hard it can be. Moving toward support of WKT as a fully fledged option within CF is unambiguously a good thing in my mind. @marqh's suggested text changes

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Axis Order for CRS-WKT grid mappings (#223)

2020-01-03 Thread marqh
Hi @JimBiardCics > If you dig into the WKT string to find the axes, shouldn't there be a pretty > clean mapping between the WKT axis names and the coordinate variable standard > names? What is the particular reason why people feel that this is > insufficient? This is indeed the concern I am

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Axis Order for CRS-WKT grid mappings (#223)

2020-01-03 Thread marqh
> @marqh -- I've not had time to really take this in yet, but I'll gladly act > as moderator. I'll edit the proposal by adding a summary of discussion above > as I have time -- should be later today or this weekend. thank you mark -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Axis Order for CRS-WKT grid mappings (#223)

2020-01-03 Thread JimBiardCics
@davidhassell It seems to me that the issue is figuring out which variable maps to which part. The rotated pole projection is a particularly thorny example. If the goal is to allow for automated ordering, I think we'd have to lay out some pretty specific syntax rules if we aren't depending on

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Axis Order for CRS-WKT grid mappings (#223)

2020-01-03 Thread David Hassell
Hi @marqh, I wasn't suggesting that you can't have both dimension coordinate and auxiliary coordinate variables explicitly associated with a grid mapping - quite the opposite: given that you can I was at first concerned on how the presence of N-d variables affected the mapping to CRS-WKT axes -

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Axis Order for CRS-WKT grid mappings (#223)

2020-01-03 Thread JimBiardCics
If you dig into the WKT string to find the axes, shouldn't there be a pretty clean mapping between the WKT axis names and the coordinate variable standard names? What is the particular reason why people feel that this is insufficient? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Axis Order for CRS-WKT grid mappings (#223)

2020-01-03 Thread JimBiardCics
I want to make sure of the reason for this proposed change. This change is being made to provide a way for software to automatically order the coordinate variables correctly when handing a WKT string and coordinate values to a function that would do coordinate transformation. We are mapping

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Axis Order for CRS-WKT grid mappings (#223)

2020-01-03 Thread JimBiardCics
@marqh That makes much better sense. I think we need to make sure that we provide clear examples, as this can get confusing quickly. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Axis Order for CRS-WKT grid mappings (#223)

2020-01-03 Thread marqh
@davidhassell there is text in 5.6 that states > which identifies one or more grid mapping variables, and with each grid > mapping associates one or more coordinate_variables, i.e. coordinate > variables or auxiliary coordinate variables. so this is already intended for use with coordinate

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Axis Order for CRS-WKT grid mappings (#223)

2020-01-03 Thread David Hassell
I think that it's valid CF to include the auxiliary coordinates in the extended grid_mapping format: `Temperature:grid_mapping = "Lambert_Conformal: lat lon x y";`, as is done in the example below. ``` dimensions: y = 228; x = 306; variables: int Lambert_Conformal;

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Axis Order for CRS-WKT grid mappings (#223)

2020-01-03 Thread marqh
There seems broad support for this change and so far limited concern. Shall I proceed with making a targeted Pull Request with the changes as discussed here, to enable us to iterate on the fine detail with review comments? Please may I have a volunteer to adopt this ticket as moderator? thank

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Axis Order for CRS-WKT grid mappings (#223)

2020-01-03 Thread marqh
Hello @JimBiardCics > It might be useful to provide an example that used a projected CRS WKT. There is a useful example in the conventions at example 5.12 in section 5.6.1 http://cfconventions.org/cf-conventions/cf-conventions#use-of-the-crs-well-known-text-format this would be updated, with