Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-16 Thread Jonathan Gregory
I STFC > To: Jonathan Gregory , "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms > > Dear Jonathan, > > > OK, flagged-dimension-array approach is certainly a more compact > representation than my previous proposal (

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-16 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
________ From: CF-metadata on behalf of Jonathan Gregory Sent: 15 May 2019 16:48 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms Dear Martin Yes, that's what I meant, thanks. Indeed, I might be suggesting an extension of

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-15 Thread Jonathan Gregory
9 14:34:48 + > From: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC > To: Jonathan Gregory , "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms > > Dear Jonathan, > > > Sorry, I think I misunderstood the scope of valid usage of &

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-15 Thread Hollis, Dan
; jbi...@cicsnc.org Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms Hi Dan, if we were starting from a blank sheet, that would be a strong point. As it is, we are rather constrained by the existing practices in the community. I hope that we can find an agreement along the lines

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-14 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
that is not always necessary or practical. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2019 15:04 To: Hollis, Dan ; Gregory, Jonathan ; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; jbi...@cicsnc.org Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms Hi Dan

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-14 Thread Hollis, Dan
or practical. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2019 15:04 To: Hollis, Dan ; Gregory, Jonathan ; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; jbi...@cicsnc.org Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms Hi Dan, Thanks, that makes it clearer

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-14 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
ating quality of histogram"; float lat(lat); float lon(lon); data: zbins = -., 25., 100., ; zbin_bnds = -.,0., 0., 50., 50., 150., ... regards, Martin ____ From: CF-metadata on behalf of Jonathan Gregory Sent: 14 May 2019 13:43 To: cf-metadata@cg

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-14 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
Dan -Original Message- From: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2019 13:29 To: Hollis, Dan ; Gregory, Jonathan ; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; jbi...@cicsnc.org Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms Hi Dan, it is a similar concept, but the aim here is to reco

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-14 Thread Hollis, Dan
STFC Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2019 13:29 To: Hollis, Dan ; Gregory, Jonathan ; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; jbi...@cicsnc.org Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms Hi Dan, it is a similar concept, but the aim here is to record it in a histogram. We have a standard name

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-14 Thread Jonathan Gregory
and appropriateness of the new name of > "bin_status_flag" which I have suggested for the auxiliary coordinate? > > > regards, > > Martin > > > From: CF-metadata on behalf of Jonathan > Gregory > Sent: 13 May 2019

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-14 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
t to store. regards, Martin From: Hollis, Dan Sent: 14 May 2019 13:13 To: Juckes, Martin (STFC,RAL,RALSP); Gregory, Jonathan; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; jbi...@cicsnc.org Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms Hi Martin, Thanks for your suggestion - I can see ho

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-14 Thread Hollis, Dan
2019 11:22 To: Juckes, Martin (STFC,RAL,RALSP); Gregory, Jonathan; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; jbi...@cicsnc.org Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms Dear Martin/Jonathan/Jim, I appreciate that this discussion is focussed on histograms, however I wonder if there is a wid

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-14 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
11:22 To: Juckes, Martin (STFC,RAL,RALSP); Gregory, Jonathan; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; jbi...@cicsnc.org Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms Dear Martin/Jonathan/Jim, I appreciate that this discussion is focussed on histograms, however I wonder if there is a wider issue he

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-14 Thread Hollis, Dan
Of Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2019 10:03 To: Gregory, Jonathan ; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms Dear Jonathan, I looked at "valid_range", and also "actual_range", but I believe that the definitions of e

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-13 Thread Jonathan Gregory
. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC - > Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 09:39:11 + > From: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC > To: Jim Biard , "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-13 Thread Jonathan Gregory
- > Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 10:46:30 -0400 > From: Jim Biard > To: "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) > Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-13 Thread Jim Biard
100., ; zbin_bnds = -.,0., 0., 50., 50., 150., ... zbin_flags = 0,1,1,1,... Regards, Martin From: CF-metadata on behalf of Jim Biard Sent: 10 May 2019 15:58 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in h

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-13 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
used instead." regards, Martin CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms Jonathan Gregoryj.m.gregory at reading.ac.uk <mailto:cf-metadata%40cgd.ucar.edu?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BCF-metadata%5D%20Missing%20data%20bins%20in%20histograms=%3C20161013094247.GF6219%40met.reading.ac.uk%3E><

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-13 Thread Jonathan Gregory
coordinate axis has bounds which are open on one side. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from Jim Biard - > Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 10:58:48 -0400 > From: Jim Biard > To: "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in hist

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-10 Thread Jim Biard
convention. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from Jim Biard http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata>> - Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:58:11 -0400 From: Jim Biard http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata>> To: cf-metadata at c

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2019-05-02 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
y include a special bin for the count or frequency of missing data. This should be indicated by setting the value of that bin and its bounds to equal the missing_value of the variable. If there is no missing value bin, it is recommended that the term 'height' be used instead." regards,

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2016-10-13 Thread Jonathan Gregory
rently allowed > >for coord variables, but they could be, I agree. > > > >Best wishes > > > >Jonathan > > > >- Forwarded message from Jim Biard <jbi...@cicsnc.org> - > > > >>Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 14:39:56 -0400 > >>From

[CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2016-10-13 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Martin Ah, OK, thanks. I must have misunderstood. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk - > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 08:20:56 + > From: martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk > To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu > Subject: [CF-metadata] Missi

[CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2016-10-13 Thread martin.juckes
Dear Jonathan, I'm sorry I didn't respond on the point about it being the first bin: I had not intended the special value to be restricted to the first bin, so I guess there is something ambiguous in my intial formulation which is giving this impression. I agree that we should formulate any

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2016-10-12 Thread Jim Biard
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 Hi. Another approach could be to use flag_values and flag_meanings on the coordinate variable to indicate one or more special coord

[CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2016-10-12 Thread Jonathan Gregory
, unless we've already agreed that in some ticket. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk - > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:14:38 + > From: martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk > To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu > Subject: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins i

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2016-10-12 Thread Jonathan Gregory
m Biard <jbi...@cicsnc.org> > To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) > Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 > > Hi. > > Another approach cou

[CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2016-10-12 Thread martin.juckes
Dear Karl, Jonathan, Jim, thanks for those comments. The CMIP6 variable in question is clmisr (http://clipc-services.ceda.ac.uk/dreq/u/59151ed6-9e49-11e5-803c-0d0b866b59f3.html) with a coordinatte of 16 altitude bins (http://clipc-services.ceda.ac.uk/dreq/u/dim:alt16.html ). I'd be happy

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2016-10-11 Thread Jim Biard
Hi. Another approach could be to use flag_values and flag_meanings on the coordinate variable to indicate one or more special coordinate values that correspond to any number of "missing data" or "out of bounds" bins. These attributes aren't forbidden by CF, and everything should be fine as

Re: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2016-10-11 Thread Karl Taylor
Hello, The histogram records frequencies of a single characteristic of a variable (in this case for cloud top height). I think that information about whether or not a cloud exists should not be formally a part of the histogram. We could adopt the convention for this variable that in the

[CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2016-10-11 Thread Jonathan Gregory
t; CC: rojma...@u.washington.edu > Subject: [CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms > > Hello, > > the CF standard name list has two "histogram_ " entries, and in the CMIP6 > data request we may need to add a third, a histogram_of_cloud_top_height. > Besides th

[CF-metadata] Missing data bins in histograms

2016-10-11 Thread martin.juckes
Hello, the CF standard name list has two "histogram_ " entries, and in the CMIP6 data request we may need to add a third, a histogram_of_cloud_top_height. Besides the standard name, we also need, for this new variable, a method of encoding the "missing data" bin in the histogram. That is,