Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Steve Bryant
I like using using components for layouts as well. Even wrote an article about it. ;-) http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/154231.htm Steve >I do this in some cases and see nothing wrong with taking that approach. It >usually is in its own separate CFC just for layout purposes but not always. >

RE: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Eric Roberts
Now children...hehehe Eric -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 12 February 2006 19:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags Yeah Will and I have seen your layout.cfc and why use a cool tool like coldfusion to make a template that

CFDIRECTORY and dateLastModified problem

2006-02-12 Thread Claude Schneegans
Hi, I need an application to verify accurately the date of a file, and I need it to be compatible with both CF 5 and CFMX. The problem is that in the dateLastModified variable returned by CFDIRECTORY, I get "02/12/2006 11:13:39 PM" under CF 5, which cumbersome to parse, I need a 24 h. format and

RE: Decimal places

2006-02-12 Thread Eric Roberts
CF will output whatever the db gives it. If it is given a number in scientific notation, it will output the number in scientific notation. I think the text option is best unless you know what the output mask needs to be for that particular number, then you can use numberformat or decimalformat to

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
How about you both bitch to me privatly rather than disrupting the list with with is basically off topic BS. Now you know what I feel about OT. If it has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, take it to another list or to personal email. I can and will write a moderation module that targets

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread dave
See now thats different then what I have heard but the speed issue is really a non issue because its probably a difference the naked eye can't even detect. It seems though as if using cfimport method actually might make it a bit more difficult to use or display results from logic or processing a

RE: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread dave
Well if he does it, i will respond back, is that so hard for you to understand? Why don't you go bitch at him for having to say something to start it. In case you didn't notice that doesn't happen till he tries one oh his like remarks. oh and I do.. ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ I forgot what I was gun

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Raymond Camden
Actually, I didn't. ;) I'm not sure you would see much difference. I know some folks consider custom tags to be a bit slower than normal includes, and yes, they are, but I've rarely seen that make a difference. About the only time i saw an impact w/ custom tags is with Spectra, which executed about

RE: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Dawson, Michael
Why you must constantly subject us to your personal issues against Will? If you have a problem with Will, put it on your blog and keep this list related to CF topics, please. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subjec

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread dave
Yeah I had seen where mack daddy-o (aka corfield) said that, seems kinda odd considering that it's importing the whole folder and not just 1 template. Is it caching the whole customtag folder on first run or something? And if so what happens when you update a template inside of the folder as far

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread dave
Will, you don't even know what a custom tag is let not to mention when u saw some code i had about a month ago with cfmodule, you didnt even know what cfmodule was. And that was after you said "wow, i really am an advanced coldfusion developer arent i" after you did your very first cfset withou

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread dave
Yeah Will and I have seen your layout.cfc and why use a cool tool like coldfusion to make a template that looks like it was made by a deaf, dumb blind kid using frontpage 97... And you wonder why you can't get any new clients... ~Dave the disruptor~ I forgot what I was gunna put here, Will

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Will Tomlinson
> You are aware, I hope, that when you use cfmodule, you are using > custom tags. Ray, I seriously doubt it! LOL!! Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:232082 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Will Tomlinson
> I been using cfmodule for my page layouts but am making my current > project with customtags am curious what your opinions are on each and > why you'd pick one over the other. Layout.cfc - showHeader(), showLeftMenu(), showFooter() Works sweet! Screw custom tags! :) Will ~

Re: OT: ColdFusion and Flex

2006-02-12 Thread Sean Corfield
Good point! I'll ask someone to update it... On 2/12/06, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did not even bother to navigate that far into the site when on the home > page I saw a reference to CFUnited a year ago then when I went to the > downloads page I saw the last stable build was from

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Sam Farmer
cfimport is quicker I believe than cfmodule from a processing point of view. On 2/12/06, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you know what i mean ray. > ok lets rephrase thats > > cfmodule vs cfimport > > ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Me

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Aaron Rouse
I do this in some cases and see nothing wrong with taking that approach. It usually is in its own separate CFC just for layout purposes but not always. On 2/12/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've even started using CFCs to hold some 'pods' of content that I use in > various

Re: Decimal places

2006-02-12 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>I could just display the number as returned by the query. There is NO "displayed number" returned by query, then you just cannot display it "as returned by the query". Numbers returned by queries are numbers coded in some internal binary format. Unless you store them as text, or in some spec

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
All depends on how your setting the title and other header info. I have sub-includes per section that see the section and uses a switch to put the right header info in place. For the lists, the header comes from the DB anyway so nothing passed. My issue against custom tags is that they are a sep

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread dave
but that limits you greatly, one reason I would use cfmodule is to be able to set variables and attributes such as title easier which is essential for search engines. ~Dave the disruptor~ I forgot what I was gunna put here, Will woulda stole it anyways!

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread dave
you know what i mean ray. ok lets rephrase thats cfmodule vs cfimport ~Dave the disruptor~ I forgot what I was gunna put here, Will woulda stole it anyways! From: Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Sub

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Personally, I use CFINCLUDEs for most of my layout. Less overhead, though less of that nice clean variable passing that custom tags/cfmodules have. I've even started using CFCs to hold some 'pods' of content that I use in various places. This idea'll start a firestorm from those who say CFCs sh

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Kay Smoljak
I think custom tags are marginally easier to read from a human perspective, but cfmodule is more flexible as you don't need a defined custom tag path. 6 vs half a dozen :) On 2/13/06, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I been using cfmodule for my page layouts but am making my current project > wi

Re: page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread Raymond Camden
You are aware, I hope, that when you use cfmodule, you are using custom tags. On 2/12/06, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I been using cfmodule for my page layouts but am making my current project > with customtags am curious what your opinions are on each and why you'd pick > one over the ot

page layout: cfmodule vs customtags

2006-02-12 Thread dave
I been using cfmodule for my page layouts but am making my current project with customtags am curious what your opinions are on each and why you'd pick one over the other. ~Dave the disruptor~ I forgot what I was gunna put here, Will woulda stole it anyways!

RE: Decimal places

2006-02-12 Thread Snake
Cheers James, it's an answer at least. russ -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 February 2006 12:13 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Decimal places This will fix up large numbers in scientific notation, while leaving alone anything that has something after

RE: Decimal places

2006-02-12 Thread Snake
If not for the scientific notation, I could just display the number as returned by the query. Is the an SQL function that will convert the number to it's true form rather then the scientific notation? Then I won't have to worry about CF's numberformat. Russ -Original Message- From: Jim D

RE: Decimal places

2006-02-12 Thread Jeff Garza
Ok Russ... Then its not the database. It might be the driver, as Jim suggested. It might be ColdFusion itself... doesn't really matter. What we're trying to tell you is that if you want it to come out exactly like it went in, so you don't have to run a numberformat or any other formatting on the

RE: Decimal places

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 6:20 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Decimal places > > Barney, > > I'm not sure why your not sure, I think I explained it pretty well. > > > My problem is that I need to display the original n

RE: Decimal places

2006-02-12 Thread Snake
The problem is not the way the database stores the number, it's formatting the output. -Original Message- From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 February 2006 14:55 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Decimal places Unfortunately, that is just the way things go when dealing with a dat

Re: Decimal places

2006-02-12 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>So if the number is 345 I want to display 345 If the number is 2367457234572345723 I want to display 2367457234572345723 If the number is 34.89 I want to display 34.89 I think see what you mean: In physics, numbers like 1.0, 1.00, 1.000 are not the same, but in math and in computers, they are.

Re: OT: ColdFusion and Flex

2006-02-12 Thread Aaron Rouse
I did not even bother to navigate that far into the site when on the home page I saw a reference to CFUnited a year ago then when I went to the downloads page I saw the last stable build was from last August. Seems like the "Alert Box" or the "News" parts of the main page would be the perfect place

Re: Create dynamic PDF in CFMX 6.1 Standard

2006-02-12 Thread James Holmes
There's also Apache FOP (another Java solution), with a ready-to-go FOP CFC available on the net. On 2/12/06, Paul Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jennifer Gavin-Wear wrote: > > Seems that for iText a knowledge of Java is needed, do you know of anything > > else, please? > > well yes, a bit

Re: Create dynamic PDF in CFMX 6.1 Standard

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Hastings
Jennifer Gavin-Wear wrote: > Seems that for iText a knowledge of Java is needed, do you know of anything > else, please? well yes, a bit but there is quite a number of folks using cf & itext so there should be plenty of examples/knowledgeable folks out there to help you along the way. also check

RE: Decimal places

2006-02-12 Thread Jeff Garza
Unfortunately, that is just the way things go when dealing with a database. Databases handle numbers in a way that's efficient for it, not for you. If you want your number to come out exactly the way it went in, store it as a varchar. -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Decimal places

2006-02-12 Thread James Holmes
This will fix up large numbers in scientific notation, while leaving alone anything that has something after the decimal point (which is highly unlikely in the large numbers so all should be well): On 2/12/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Barney, > > I'm not sure why your not sure

RE: Decimal places

2006-02-12 Thread Snake
Barney, I'm not sure why your not sure, I think I explained it pretty well. > My problem is that I need to display the original number in it's > original format unchanged. So if the number is 345 I want to display 345 If the number is 2367457234572345723 I want to display 2367457234572345723 If