Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
> *wakes up* > Spectra? Did someone say Spectra? > *back to sleep* Spectra can also be used to summon shoggoths. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the h

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
> But a Flex question. If Adobe stops any further development on Flex, how > likely is it that an open source group might continue to develop it? Well, lots of ASF projects do pretty well. But, they tend not to have that specific a focus - one of the things that a company can bring to development

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Judah McAuley
That's what I was saying, Ray :) On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > We don't just use jQuery, we put engineering time into it - and jQuery > UI and jQuery Mobile. That doesn't get enough press so spread the > word. ;) > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Emmit Larson

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Raymond Camden
We don't just use jQuery, we put engineering time into it - and jQuery UI and jQuery Mobile. That doesn't get enough press so spread the word. ;) On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Emmit Larson wrote: > >>> it is my understanding that Adobe is getting more of the JQuery love in > its life a >

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
They updated the announcementmuch better: http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/2011/11/your-questions-about-flex.html On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 15:18 -0500, Mike Chabot wrote: > http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/2011/11/your-questions-about-flex.html -- Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Emmit Larson
>> it is my understanding that Adobe is getting more of the JQuery love in its life a I looked under the hood of Adobe Edge, the HTML5 animation tool and it uses jQuery and stores data for the animations as JSON. jQuery is wildly popular for good reason. In many ways it is like CFML, it makes har

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Raymond Camden
*wakes up* Spectra? Did someone say Spectra? *back to sleep* On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > I miss Spectra. Lots of expensive training lost in a moment. > > But working in WordPress brings back lots of memory of containers, and late > nights tweaking nesting rule

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I miss Spectra. Lots of expensive training lost in a moment. But working in WordPress brings back lots of memory of containers, and late nights tweaking nesting rules. Sigh. But a Flex question. If Adobe stops any further development on Flex, how likely is it that an open source group might con

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Jeffrey Battershall
I don't know - this all seems so premature. It's not like HTML5 is 100% ready for primetime. I think of some of the stuff I do with Flex and HTML/JS seems much weaker as a programming language. A key phrase in the post was 'in the long run'. I don't see HTML/JS being stronger than Flex for

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
> The abandonment of Spectra was accompanied by a rosy news release and claims > of "This is fantastic > news!"  Spectra quickly died. That was fantastic news! (not a Spectra fan here, but j/k I guess) Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Matt Quackenbush
+1 to "corporate spin" And no, no one in their right mind would invest in a **NEW** Flex/Flash application. From the Adobe page: /snip *Does Adobe recommend we use Flex or HTML5 for our enterprise application development?* In the long-term, we believe HTML5 will be t

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > This doesn't entirely make sense to me, though - they're not getting > rid of Flash Builder. I also suspect that they'll subsidize some of > the open-source development, as they've done many times in the past - > the Ajax library in CF is open-

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Mike Chabot
You have to look through the corporate spin put on that announcement. Adobe is trying to make a bad event sound positive. When they write "yes" they actually mean "no." The abandonment of Spectra was accompanied by a rosy news release and claims of "This is fantastic news!" Spectra quickly died.

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
exactlythis all seems too soon on Adobe's part ...but learning what's coming is always wise On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 16:08 -0500, Scott Stewart wrote: > don't get me wrong, so am I but at the same time the HTML 4 world > isn't going away anytime soon.. and it still needs to be supported. --

Re: Which mobile development platform is best?

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
> Also, do you know of mobile app developers who can set up a small app as > 'BETA'? What do you mean by this? If you mean, do you know of mobile app developers who will work for free on contingency - no, I don't. If I did, they'd be called "suckers". Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://w

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
They say they are assigning some Flex SDK engineers to the open source team...did we read the same announcement?? On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 16:08 -0500, Mike Chabot wrote: > Open source is a phrase that can have a few interpretations. In this > case it means Adobe is not going to devote any more com

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
> > > Everything else you said aside Scottfree does not mean open source > > > > > > The Flex SDK has been free > > > > I'm pretty sure it's always been open-source as well. You can > > certainly trace into source code of classes within the Flex class > > library. And the Flex SDK has always b

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
> Open source is a phrase that can have a few interpretations. In this > case it means Adobe is not going to devote any more company resources > into future development. I think the outcome will be the same as what > happened to Spectra, unless the Flex community convinces Adobe to > change their

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Gerald Guido
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > don't get me wrong, so am I but at the same time the HTML 4 world > isn't going away anytime soon.. and it still needs to be supported. > > I did not mean to infer you were or weren't or what ever the case may be. :) We are a IE shop so

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Mike Chabot
Open source is a phrase that can have a few interpretations. In this case it means Adobe is not going to devote any more company resources into future development. I think the outcome will be the same as what happened to Spectra, unless the Flex community convinces Adobe to change their mind. I wo

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Stewart
don't get me wrong, so am I but at the same time the HTML 4 world isn't going away anytime soon.. and it still needs to be supported. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Gerald Guido wrote: > >>>HTML 5 is very cool, but it's World Dominance is greatly exaggerated. > > None the less I am boning up o

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Gerald Guido
>>HTML 5 is very cool, but it's World Dominance is greatly exaggerated. None the less I am boning up on HTML5 CSS3 JS etc. MS is betting heavily on HTML5 (Windows 8 is going to have a HTML5/CSS3/JS based UI) as is Google. Right now, according to my (extremely unscientific) estimates about 40-60%

Re: CFHTTP and Amazons dynamic Load Balancer tool

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
> We are trying to post information to an API on A3 with their dynamic Load > Balancer tool. > The issue is that the IP constantly change and CF is caching the DNS so it is > failing with a connection failure all the time. > > Does anyone have a solution to this - I have asked the client to set

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I'll always bow to your wisdom Davenever saw that before ;-) On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 15:45 -0500, Dave Watts wrote: > > Everything else you said aside Scottfree does not mean open source > > > > The Flex SDK has been free > > I'm pretty sure it's always been open-source as well. You can >

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Jake Churchill
It became open source in version 3 I believe. It's been that way for quite a while now. -Jake On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > > > Everything else you said aside Scottfree does not mean open source > > > > The Flex SDK has been free > > I'm pretty sure it's always been

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
> Everything else you said aside Scottfree does not mean open source > > The Flex SDK has been free I'm pretty sure it's always been open-source as well. You can certainly trace into source code of classes within the Flex class library. And the Flex SDK has always been available from here: h

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Stewart
Contractor... so I get the hand me downs On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades wrote: > > You're Fed, and you have IE8? Man, you are lucky... > > Steve 'Cutter' Blades > Adobe Community Professional > Adobe Certified Expert > Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer > _

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
You're Fed, and you have IE8? Man, you are lucky... Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/lear

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
LOL...sorry manwhen the flames are getting ready to riseaccuracy counts ;-) On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 15:12 -0500, Scott Stewart wrote: > picky, picky picky :) > but yeah your right... -- Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. ph

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Stewart
picky, picky picky :) but yeah your right... On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Bryan Stevenson wrote: > > Everything else you said aside Scottfree does not mean open source > > The Flex SDK has been free > > Cheers > > > On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 15:02 -0500, Scott Stewart wrote: > >> Hasn't the

Re: MS Word Formatted text in DB not displaying correctly on output

2011-11-15 Thread Torrent Girl
>You may also need to link in the original style sheet. > >At 01:05 PM 11/10/2011, you wrote: > >> hmmm...let me try that. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272

CFHTTP and Amazons dynamic Load Balancer tool

2011-11-15 Thread Matthew Friedman
We are trying to post information to an API on A3 with their dynamic Load Balancer tool. The issue is that the IP constantly change and CF is caching the DNS so it is failing with a connection failure all the time. Does anyone have a solution to this - I have asked the client to set up a subdo

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Everything else you said aside Scottfree does not mean open source The Flex SDK has been free Cheers On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 15:02 -0500, Scott Stewart wrote: > Hasn't the flex SDK *always* been open source? > > I think this last line contradicts your statement > > "Is Adobe still committ

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Stewart
So are they going to try to force adoption of new browsers? I can tell you that in the Federal sector this won't wash.. (says me working from my federal Win XP IE 8 machine). HTML 5 is very cool, but it's World Dominance is greatly exaggerated. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Matt Quackenbush

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I suggest everyone read the article behind the link Mike posted. No offence Mike, but you may have paraphrased a little too much there (or it's my own interpretation) ;-) I read it as Flexhas NOT been adondonded and will continue on for some timesome of the Flex SDK engineers will be part of

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Matt Quackenbush
CF is indeed alive and well. Flex? Flash? Nopers. Done. Be sure to read the portions from Adobe where they clearly state that for all future enterprise development THEY recommend HTML5 and NOT Flash/Flex. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Hasn't the flex SDK *always

Re: CF 9 Installation error

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Stewart
Are you in the OS with Administrative privledges? On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Mohammed Hasan wrote: > > Hi, > I am trying to install CF 9 on Win 2k8 but end up getting > invocationTargetException as soon as the Installer extracts the files. I had > Java 1.6 update 29 installed on the mac

Re: Which mobile development platform is best?

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Adobe AIR should fit the bill nicelyand FYI some of your requirements have nothing to do with the platform On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 10:22 -0500, ViVO concepts wrote: > We start developing a mobile application for IOS, Android, BB, Windows, to be > available in various app stores. We are wonder

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Stewart
Hasn't the flex SDK *always* been open source? I think this last line contradicts your statement "Is Adobe still committed to Flash Builder? Yes. Flash Builder will continue to be developed and Adobe will work to ensure Flex developers can use Flash Builder as their development tool with future

Re: CF 9 Installation error

2011-11-15 Thread Russ Michaels
try to clean up the directory to which the installer is trying to extract the JRE, for example, /tmp. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Mohammed Hasan wrote: > > Hi, > I am trying to install CF 9 on Win 2k8 but end up getting > invocationTargetException as soon as the Installer extracts the file

Which mobile development platform is best?

2011-11-15 Thread ViVO concepts
We start developing a mobile application for IOS, Android, BB, Windows, to be available in various app stores. We are wondering which development platforms we should chose based on ease of use, time-to-market, costs, scalability. Technical requirements include: geo location detection, integratio

CF 9 Installation error

2011-11-15 Thread Mohammed Hasan
Hi, I am trying to install CF 9 on Win 2k8 but end up getting invocationTargetException as soon as the Installer extracts the files. I had Java 1.6 update 29 installed on the machine. I am getting the same error even after uninstalling the Java installed on the machine. Anyone out there encount

Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Mike Chabot
Adobe announced this week that they are ending their commitment to further Flex development. Flex 4.6 will likely be the last version Adobe releases and the Flex SDK engineers will be reassigned to HTML 5 projects. Future Flex development will come from the open source community. The announcement

Re: CF AJAX controls not rendering?

2011-11-15 Thread Claude Schnéegans
This might be caused by the persitent cache in bug in Explorer. I put these lines in the template called by the Ajax function, and the problem is solved. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/A

Re: cfajax error

2011-11-15 Thread Greg Morphis
Leigh, you were right! That's what it was but the problem only reared it's ugly head with Access with Unicode.. Since I can't reinstall CF on our prod box your solution saved me from having to replicate the DB in Oracle and then alter the queries to match. This app may not even be used much more s