Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-24 Thread Mike Chabot
Be careful with that aspquery tag example. ASP.NET does have something very similar to cfquery called SqlDataSource. It looks like this: -Mike Chabot On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Billy Cravens wrote: > > In my preliminary conversations with the hosts, that already was mentioned: > the ide

Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-24 Thread Dave Watts
> I think the interest is that had things gone a little different, a .NET > developer would be writing tags today :) Well, see, this is kind of interesting. CF (and dbWeb for that matter) had this tag-based model, but MS explicitly moved away from that with ASP 1.0 because they wanted to push t

Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-24 Thread Billy Cravens
In my preliminary conversations with the hosts, that already was mentioned: the idea that CF has a rich history, not so much a "nanny-nanny-boo-boo we're older than the language you do" :-) I think the interest is that had things gone a little different, a .NET developer would be writing tags t

Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-24 Thread Mike Chabot
Billy, I wish you well with the podcast. I listen to DotNetRocks all the time. On the specific question you asked, I would recommend not bringing up that topic at all because of the points Dave mentioned, and also because most .NET programmers would not care about an ancient business transaction

Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-24 Thread Judah McAuley
For historical perspective, you might also want to mention Lasso which was contemporaneous with the origin of CF and shared very much the same ideas. The biggest difference was that Lasso was Mac-focused and intended to integrate with FileMaker Pro. I did Lasso dev prior to learning CF and it was

Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-24 Thread Billy Cravens
dotnetrocks.com - I presume it'll be posted on the site around the mid-September Billy Cravens >What podcast is it so we can all listen :) > >Paul > >On 24/08/2011, at 3:05 PM, Billy Cravens wrote: > >> ~| Order the Adobe Col

Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-24 Thread Dave Watts
> Thanks Dave. I guess authoritative isn't the correct word, as much as I'm > looking for details (who, when, etc). I doubt that you'll be able to find any more details than that. Allaire was a small company at the time, and the recollections of the principals on the Allaire side is as good as y

Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-23 Thread Paul Kukiel
What podcast is it so we can all listen :) Paul On 24/08/2011, at 3:05 PM, Billy Cravens wrote: > > Thanks Dave. I guess authoritative isn't the correct word, as much as I'm > looking for details (who, when, etc). Probably won't be that big a deal, > since the focus of the talk is "why .NET

Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-23 Thread Billy Cravens
Thanks Dave. I guess authoritative isn't the correct word, as much as I'm looking for details (who, when, etc). Probably won't be that big a deal, since the focus of the talk is "why .NET developers should care about CF", but I like to be prepared, since I'll definitely bring predating ASP. :-)

Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-23 Thread Dave Watts
> I'm scheduled to talk CF on a pretty big .NET podcast, and one thing that > will likely come up is the idea that CF > predates ASP, and likely the subject of the attempted acquisition of Allaire > back in the day will come up. Does > anyone know anything solid about this? I want to make sure I

(ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-22 Thread Billy Cravens
I'm scheduled to talk CF on a pretty big .NET podcast, and one thing that will likely come up is the idea that CF predates ASP, and likely the subject of the attempted acquisition of Allaire back in the day will come up. Does anyone know anything solid about this? I want to make sure I sound ha