Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-24 Thread Wil Genovese
Part of the reason for Adobe Coldfusion 8 having features that the open source competitors do not is commercial licensing. Adobe either owns the license for some of the cool new tag features or paid the bucks to use a third party license. The open source products may not have the money to pay

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-24 Thread Judah McAuley
In the future, differences between projects are likely to be smaller due to the creation of the CFML Advisory Committee. http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/CFML_Advisory_Committee Hopefully it will delineate a core set of features/functions and allow for more widely

CFML Advisory Committee (was: Alternative to coldfusion8)

2008-10-24 Thread Jordan Michaels
Speaking of the advisory committee, I heard a rumor once (don't remember where) that there was going to be a web site that would help the community stay up on the progress of this committee. Any news on that so far? How about overall progress of the committee in general? What's the committee been

Re: CFML Advisory Committee (was: Alternative to coldfusion8)

2008-10-24 Thread Adam Haskell
I think they are slightly closer to having a wiki space up than OpenBD at this point...how long has it been since we were promised a wiki with info on OpenBD? Adam Haskell Also a member of the OpenBD Steering Committee :) On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

Re: CFML Advisory Committee (was: Alternative to coldfusion8)

2008-10-24 Thread Jordan Michaels
Indeed. It's been a while now. ;) Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ Open BlueDragon Steering Committee Adobe Solution Provider Adam Haskell wrote: I think they are slightly closer to having a wiki space up than OpenBD at this point...how long has it

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-24 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Don L wrote: Am thinking totally loud here, why not combine resources to come up with some leading edge stuff, instead of being a follower (non-critical of neither products, just a comment)? Which resources do you want to combine exactly? What are you contributing? Jochem

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-24 Thread Larry Lyons
In the future, differences between projects are likely to be smaller due to the creation of the CFML Advisory Committee. http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog. entry/entry/CFML_Advisory_Committee Hopefully it will delineate a core set of features/functions and allow for more widely

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-24 Thread Judah McAuley
The comments on the blog posting I linked to confirms what you're saying Larry but it also seems to show a willingness to involve people from the OpenBD organization. Now whether or not that has happend, I have no clue. I don't follow the CF politics too closely.There are multiple members of the

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-24 Thread Don L
In the future, differences between projects are likely to be smaller due to the creation of the CFML Advisory Committee. http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog. entry/entry/CFML_Advisory_Committee Hopefully it will delineate a core set of features/functions and allow for more widely

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-24 Thread Don L
Part of the reason for Adobe Coldfusion 8 having features that the open source competitors do not is commercial licensing. Adobe either owns the license for some of the cool new tag features or paid the bucks to use a third party license. The open source products may not have the money to pay

Re: CFML Advisory Committee (was: Alternative to coldfusion8)

2008-10-24 Thread Raymond Camden
Unfortunately you have a portion of the group (Sean and myself) having been -very- swamped the last few weeks. We are all still around of course, and still very much dedicated. On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed. It's been a while now. ;) Warm

RE: CFML Advisory Committee (was: Alternative to coldfusion8)

2008-10-24 Thread Ben Forta
And another portion (myself) utterly buried under MAX prep. But, we'll get there ... --- Ben -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:06 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFML Advisory Committee (was: Alternative to coldfusion8

Re: CFML Advisory Committee (was: Alternative to coldfusion8)

2008-10-24 Thread Jordan Michaels
. But, we'll get there ... --- Ben -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:06 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFML Advisory Committee (was: Alternative to coldfusion8) Unfortunately you have a portion of the group (Sean

Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-23 Thread Don L
Just ran a search for it and found two, of which one is well-known, that is, BlueDragon, the other contender is Smith, did a quick browse of features respectively, and noticed that some of 'hot-cake' CF8 features like cfajaxproxy and associated tags are not supported by neither of them (on

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-23 Thread James Holmes
You missed Railo in your search. mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ 2008/10/24 Don L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just ran a search for it and found two, of which one is well-known, that is, BlueDragon, the other contender is Smith, did a quick browse of

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-23 Thread AJ Mercer
Add Railo to your search http://railo-technologies.com/ On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Don L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just ran a search for it and found two, of which one is well-known, that is, BlueDragon, the other contender is Smith, did a quick browse of features respectively, and

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-23 Thread Jordan Michaels
BlueDragon comes in two flavors. The commercial version, which is commercially supported, and Open BlueDragon, which is supported by the community. Their URL's are as follows: BlueDragon Commercial version (focusing on their .NET version) http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/index.cfm

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-23 Thread Don L
Add Railo to your search http://railo-technologies.com/ Thanks for the heads-up and the URL, however, unlike BD, it does not list tag comparison with cf8, hard to tell if it can support some of the great cf8 features listed in my last post.

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-23 Thread Don L
BlueDragon comes in two flavors. The commercial version, which is commercially supported, and Open BlueDragon, which is supported by the community. Their URL's are as follows: BlueDragon Commercial version (focusing on their .NET version) http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/index.cfm

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-23 Thread James Holmes
Umm... http://www.railo-technologies.com/en/index.cfm?treeID=107 mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ 2008/10/24 Don L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Add Railo to your search http://railo-technologies.com/ Thanks for the heads-up and the URL, however,

Re: Alternative to coldfusion8

2008-10-23 Thread Don L
Umm... http://www.railo-technologies.com/en/index.cfm?treeID=107 Thanks for the URL. It looks like an alternative could a road to he?? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get