I no longer see the free BlueDragon Server on New Atlanta's site. Did
Open BlueDragon basically replace it? Certainly seems like a different
beast.
~|
Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release
I would assume it did but I am concerned about the later comment. I read it
with a negative connotation and I am curious how is it a different beast?
Adam
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Dan LeGate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I no longer see the free BlueDragon Server on New Atlanta's site
What you mean with Certainly seems like a different beast. ?
Kind Regards,
Nitai
On Nov 5, 2008, at 6:49 PM, Dan LeGate wrote:
I no longer see the free BlueDragon Server on New Atlanta's site. Did
Open BlueDragon basically replace it? Certainly seems like a
different
beast.
--
Razuna
this helps!
Warm regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies
http://www.viviotech.net/
Open BlueDragon Steering Committee
Adobe Solution Provider
Dan LeGate wrote:
I no longer see the free BlueDragon Server on New Atlanta's site. Did
Open BlueDragon basically replace it? Certainly seems like
the free BlueDragon Server on New Atlanta's site. Did
Open BlueDragon basically replace it? Certainly seems like a different
beast.
~|
Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to
date
Get
, 15 August 2008 2:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Free BlueDragon?
You really don't even have to do that.
True. The reason I mentioned XAMPP (Other than I love it) is that it comes
with Mysql built in. As well as all the batch scripts you need to start up
Tomcat, Mysql, Apache, FTP etc
Thanks
--
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613 9015 8628
Mobile: 0404 998 273
-Original Message-
From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 18 August 2008 2:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Free BlueDragon?
@ Andrew,
Have you got
Your points are well taken. My goal for this cf project is to implement an
idea with current technology but not necessarily up to last minute one, major
constraint is a very limited time/effort availability. Hence, I tried to nudge
Adobe and via this powerful cf group to make cf8 app server
JRun Webserver is a webserver. You are talking about the JRun
application server. The first is part of the second; JWS is only good
for serving web pages and has none of the functionality a production
webserver needs (like security, URL rewriting etc).
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Andrew
Mobile: 0404 998 273
-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2008 4:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Free BlueDragon?
JRun Webserver is a webserver. You are talking about the JRun
application server. The first is part of the second; JWS
August 2008 4:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Free BlueDragon?
JRun Webserver is a webserver. You are talking about the JRun
application server. The first is part of the second; JWS is only good
for serving web pages and has none of the functionality a production
webserver needs (like security
On Thursday 14 Aug 2008, Dave Watts wrote:
Adobe/Macromedia gave this impression by stating this in several places.
Really ? I know they don't sell JRun anymore, but when they did they said it
was ace.
Also, the JRun web server has practically no functionality beyond serving
pages. Other
http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/adv_development/config_builtin_webserver/index.html
Although you can use the ColdFusion MX built-in web server for
developing, testing, and debugging ColdFusion applications, Macromedia
does not recommend that you use it for deployment.
That's from 2002.
On Friday 15 Aug 2008, James Holmes wrote:
That's from 2002.
Yeah, I think 5 years of further development could, maybe, have improved
things I tad.
--
Tom Chiverton
This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.
Halliwells LLP
They do still sell JRun ... they just aren't doing any more work to it
other than security fixes, platform support, etc.
£759+VAT :)
Andy
2008/8/15 Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thursday 14 Aug 2008, Dave Watts wrote:
Adobe/Macromedia gave this impression by stating this in several
Mobile: 0404 998 273
-Original Message-
From: Don L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 12:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Free BlueDragon?
Gerald Guido
I have a fair amount of experience with Open BD and Railo 3 beta using
Apache and Tomcat on Windows/Fedora/Centos
it as a plugin for openBD.
--
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613 9015 8628
Mobile: 0404 998 273
-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 12:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Free BlueDragon?
OBD
-Talk
Subject: Re: Free BlueDragon?
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Barney Boisvert wrote:
OBD doesn't have any of the CF8 candy that you mention. It is
significantly lighter weight than CF though. From what you describe,
I think CF is your only option, as neither OBD or Railo (my open
source
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Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 2:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Free BlueDragon?
You really don't even have to do that.
True. The reason I mentioned XAMPP (Other than I love it) is that it comes
with Mysql built in. As well as all the batch scripts you need to start up
Tomcat, Mysql, Apache
: RE: Free BlueDragon?
I don't know why people have this impression but JRun is
quite able to run in production as the primary web server (as
opposed to using Apache as a front end).
Adobe/Macromedia gave this impression by stating this in several places.
Also, the JRun web server has
9015 8628
Mobile: 0404 998 273
-Original Message-
From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 11:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Free BlueDragon?
They do still sell JRun ... they just aren't doing any more work to it
other than security fixes, platform
On Thursday 14 Aug 2008, Don L wrote:
Thank you, Gerald, allow me to be lazy for a minute, cf8 comes with its own
web server albeit it is for development only,
I don't know why people have this impression but JRun is quite able to run in
production as the primary web server (as opposed to
f8 comes with its own web server albeit it is for development only, and
it can be installed siliently (without user interaction would probably be
more accurate)
If that is the case you could roll it up with something like XAMPP with the
Tomcat Plugin. With a bit of work and a bat file you can
f8 comes with its own web server albeit it is for development only, and
it can be installed siliently (without user interaction would probably be
more accurate)
If that is the case you could roll it up with something like XAMPP with the
Tomcat Plugin. With a bit of work and a bat file you can
Thank you, Gerald, allow me to be lazy for a minute, cf8
comes with its own web server albeit it is for development
only, and it can be installed siliently (without user
interaction would probably be more accurate), and this
capability (of silent installation + a default web server) is
I don't know why people have this impression but JRun is
quite able to run in production as the primary web server (as
opposed to using Apache as a front end).
Adobe/Macromedia gave this impression by stating this in several places.
Also, the JRun web server has practically no functionality
You really don't even have to do that.
True. The reason I mentioned XAMPP (Other than I love it) is that it comes
with Mysql built in. As well as all the batch scripts you need to start up
Tomcat, Mysql, Apache, FTP etc. and install them as services. It is pretty
much a complete App stack that
A quick thank-you note, you guys are awesome! Thank you.
I've read a bit on this guy but still does not know anything
substantial about it, installing it and playing it out is an option
but if I could get some thoughts from someone has done that it would
be very desirable for my decision
I've read a bit on this guy but still does not know anything substantial about
it, installing it and playing it out is an option but if I could get some
thoughts from someone has done that it would be very desirable for my decision
on a small cf8-based app which uses a lot of new and sexy
I have a fair amount of experience with Open BD and Railo 3 beta using
Apache and Tomcat on Windows/Fedora/Centos. I would gladly answer any
questions. I would recommend posing your questions to the Open BD Google
Group @ http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en
~G~
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at
Nitai @ SixSigns posted a video tute on setting up Open BD with apache
here: http://www.vimeo.com/1362803
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Don L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've read a bit on this guy but still does not know anything substantial
about it, installing it and playing it out is
Gerald Guido
I have a fair amount of experience with Open BD and Railo 3 beta using
Apache and Tomcat on Windows/Fedora/Centos. I would gladly answer any
questions. I would recommend posing your questions to the Open BD Google
Group @ http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en
~G~
Gerald
OBD doesn't have any of the CF8 candy that you mention. It is
significantly lighter weight than CF though. From what you describe,
I think CF is your only option, as neither OBD or Railo (my open
source CFML engine of choice) is going to fit the bill.
cheers,
barneyb
Barney Boisvert
Thank you, Gerald, allow me to be lazy for a minute, cf8
comes with its own web server albeit it is for development
only, and it can be installed siliently (without user
interaction would probably be more accurate), and this
capability (of silent installation + a default web server) is
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Barney Boisvert wrote:
OBD doesn't have any of the CF8 candy that you mention. It is
significantly lighter weight than CF though. From what you describe,
I think CF is your only option, as neither OBD or Railo (my open
source CFML engine of choice) is going
On Saturday 22 Feb 2003 17:10 pm, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
The only conflict to watch out for is when you go to install a web server
adapter to IIS or Apache--in that case you can only have one of
BlueDragon/CFMX/CF5 attached to the web server.
But you can just use ProxyPass or mod_rewrite to
The only conflict to watch out for is when you go to
install a web server adapter to IIS or Apache--in that
case you can only have one of BlueDragon/CFMX/CF5
attached to the web server.
But you can just use ProxyPass or mod_rewrite to map the
server on port 8500 into the URI space
|
| You don't even have to do that. You can just enable BlueDragon or CFMX or
| CF5 within specific virtual servers or directories, on Apache or IIS.
|
| Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
| http://www.figleaf.com/
| voice: (202) 797-5496
| fax: (202) 797-5444
|
I would be interested in
You don't even have to do that. You can just enable
BlueDragon or CFMX or CF5 within specific virtual
servers or directories, on Apache or IIS.
I would be interested in seeing more details on this
feature
I've described this more than once on this list, I'm sure, so it's probably
in
On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 10:24 AM, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
Note that the BlueDragon implementation is via the new PAGE attribute
of the
CFINCLUDE tag (and not via the GetPageContext function), which allows
you to
include the output of JSP pages or servlets in a CFML page:
On Saturday, Feb 22, 2003, at 07:24 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
My apologies--CFMX does indeed offer similar capabilities as
BlueDragon in
this regard. It was an oversight on my part, and not a deliberate
attempt to
mislead.
No problem. I expected it was just an oversight. I've been
, 2003 11:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
...
Anyone's who's interested in learning more about the CFML/Java/JSP
integration features offered by BlueDragon will be interested in
attending my talk at the upcoming MXNorth conference:
I assume
crashes when I go there later.
Does this make sense?
Eric
From: Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:10:31 -0500
Yes CFMX and BlueDragon (and CF5) can all peacefully co
Hi Eric,
See responses inserted below.
Vince
-Original Message-
From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
When I install on a machine without IIS v5, it asks me if I
want
a couple of things.
So I don't quite remember its history. I may install from scratch.
I am running w2k, ntfs. cleaning registry now...
Eric
From: Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
Date: Mon
-Original Message-
From: AJ W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
I hope that New Atlanta has worked on the compatibility
problems I was seeing last year. I was quick to try out Blue
Dragon
compatibility with CFMX, but we still like our implementation
better. :-)
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 10:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: FREE
]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
Yes, we've made significant strides based on feedback from customers like
you. If you continue to have problems with the 3.0.1 service pack please
contact me directly ([EMAIL
Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
-Original Message-
From: Frank Mamone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
Vince,
I apologize if I missed your response
-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
Wow. The 'free' part doesn't extend to a production box, right? Not
sure about the definition of 'deployment
).
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
Wow. The 'free' part doesn't extend
:)
Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
-Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server
]
MR MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
MR
MR -Original Message-
MR From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
MR Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:59 AM
MR To: CF-Talk
MR Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
MR Yes
Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its free'
garbage, which never had any validity in the first place.
All
available for future enhancements to CF.
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its free' garbage,
which
Are there any issues with installing Blue Dragon on an existing W2K, IIS,
CF4.5.2 box? or will it be a clean install?
Eric
From: jon hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:01:40
Eric Dawson wrote:
Are there any issues with installing Blue Dragon on an existing W2K, IIS,
CF4.5.2 box? or will it be a clean install?
I would recommend a standalone install, shouldn't give any problems.
Then you should be able to verify your code works using the BlueDragon
internal
Will be interesting to see what kind of traction BlueDragon gets in the
marketplace. And if it suceeds(sic), what kind of pricing pressure this
puts on
MM. And one could argue that if it causes sufficient pricing pressure, MM
might have to respond in a way that reduces their revenue and
This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its
free' garbage, which never had any validity in the
first place.
I don't know if I'd go as far as that. First of all, BlueDragon != CFMX.
Second, there's validity to the argument that free software is better than
non-free software, all
At 01:01 PM 2/21/03 -0600, Raymond Camden wrote:
I don't think you will ever kill that argument. There are some people
who - for whatever reason - think ALL commercial software is the tool of
the devil, and if you try to sell code you are commiting a mortal sin.
They will NEVER be convinced
-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its free' garbage,
which never had any validity in the first place. All
At 01:01 PM 2/21/03 -0600, Raymond Camden wrote:
I don't think you will ever kill that argument. There are
some people
who - for whatever reason - think ALL commercial software
is the tool of
the devil, and if you try to sell code you are commiting a
mortal sin.
They will NEVER be convinced
21, 2003 1:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its free'
garbage,
which never had any validity in the first place. All
sorts of
implications here. Sure would like to see a lot of new
cfml developers
enter the world
trying it out.
Dave
- Original Message -
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its
free' garbage, which never had any
on)
it seems like they'd at least do the product site in cfm via BD for this
exact reason.
barneyb
-Original Message-
From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
maybe its just me but I find
but it would also probably keep me from even
trying it out.
Dave
- Original Message -
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
This finally kills dead all of that php/asp
i dont know enough about it to really know. It was just my immediate thought
Dave
- Original Message -
From: Mosh Teitelbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:19 PM
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
If I understand correctly
also probably keep me from even
trying it out.
Dave
- Original Message -
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
This finally kills dead all of that php/asp 'but its
-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:29 PM
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
Hi Dave,
I think your delivery inference means that our
download page is a JSP, which is correct:
http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/download.jsp
However, that's merely
shared across CFML
and JSP pages.
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: FREE BlueDragon Server Released!
I
I hope that New Atlanta has worked on the compatibility problems I was seeing last
year. I was quick to try out Blue Dragon as an alternate to CFMX Linux, primarily
because CFMX at that time did not run very well w/ Linux.
After a month or so with BD I hung up that hat and went back to CF5.
I hope that New Atlanta has worked on the compatibility
problems I was seeing last year. I was quick to try out
Blue Dragon as an alternate to CFMX Linux, primarily
because CFMX at that time did not run very well w/ Linux.
After a month or so with BD I hung up that hat and went
back to CF5.
On Friday, Feb 21, 2003, at 13:49 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
In this case we're using the BlueDragon/J2EE edition running within a
standard J2EE WAR file side-by-side with the JSP pages. In fact, some
of the
common page elements (headers, footers, menu bars) are implemented via
New Atlanta is pleased to announce the release of the BlueDragon 3.0.1
service pack, including the FREE BlueDragon Server edition, available for
immediate download:
http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/download.jsp
New Atlanta is also pleased to make the formal announcement
Wow. The 'free' part doesn't extend to a production box, right? Not
sure about the definition of 'deployment'.
Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
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