I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a new version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his new revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than the Sahara I tell you. I hate you, Ben. Rey... PS: Of course,

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2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Q. Why on earth do you need these books now? The CF Docs are more than enoughif not better. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because

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2005-05-11 Thread Paul Hastings
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Q. Why on earth do you need these books now? The CF Docs are more than enoughif not better. well for i18n work, its certainly cheaper than hiring me if you think the docs are enough for thiswell good luck then.

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2005-05-11 Thread Ray Champagne
What? r u serious? Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Q. Why on earth do you need these books now? The CF Docs are more than enoughif not better. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: I truly hate Ben

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2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta What? r u serious? Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Q. Why on earth do you need these books now? The CF Docs are more than enoughif not better. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00

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2005-05-11 Thread Calvin Ward
To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Q. Why on earth do you need these books now? The CF Docs are more than enoughif not better. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta Thats right! I

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2005-05-11 Thread Micha Schopman
- -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Not always

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2005-05-11 Thread Ray Champagne
Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 14:16 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta What? r u serious? Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Q. Why on earth do you need these books now? The CF Docs are more than enoughif not better. -Original Message- From

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2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Q. Why on earth do you need these books now? The CF Docs are more than enoughif not better. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto

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2005-05-11 Thread Ray Champagne
- -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities hidden there. For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty

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2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I am just sad the O'Reilly dropped their coverage of CF as I prefer there layout and useage. -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 14:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta Fair enough. I still like having a nice bound

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2005-05-11 Thread Mark Smyth
- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 14:16 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta What? r u serious? Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Q. Why on earth do you need these books now? The CF Docs are more than enoughif not better. -Original

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2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
, 2005 9:20 AM Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta I am just sad the O'Reilly dropped their coverage of CF as I prefer there layout and useage. -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 14:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

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2005-05-11 Thread Clint Tredway
: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities hidden there. For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression tester for CFMX in it... -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

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2005-05-11 Thread Kerry
Wouldnt the Advanced CF 7 book be of more benefit than the CFWACK book? -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a new version

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2005-05-11 Thread kola.oyedeji
: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 13:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a new version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his new revised version of CFWACK!! He

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2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
Subtle way of saying in the bathroom? ;o) Rey... - Original Message - From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta the main reason I buy books is for when I am not online and need

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2005-05-11 Thread Jim Davis
For what it's worth I use the docs as my primary resource as well. You can buy bound, printed copies directly from Macromedia and that's always the first thing I do when a new version hits. The online version of the docs also includes many useful comments from anal retentive readers. ;^) Not

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2005-05-11 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Well I still have my 4.0 CFWACK if anyone wants it ;-) Well - I still have my CF 2.0 WACK - that bright yellow 14 lb. thing

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2005-05-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Well I still have my 4.0 CFWACK if anyone wants it ;-) Well - I still have my CF 2.0 WACK - that bright yellow 14

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2005-05-11 Thread Jeff Garza
Man... doesn't anyone have wireless here??? ;-) I'm never offline... Jeff -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta Subtle way of saying in the bathroom? ;o) Rey

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2005-05-11 Thread Calvin Ward
Those bound, printed copies cost $150 for the set. I'm thinking sub $40 per book for the WACK and Advanced WACK is a better deal! -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta For what

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2005-05-11 Thread Bryan Stevenson
3.1 was blue (2nd edition).my first CF Bible ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com

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2005-05-11 Thread Ewok
Wireless on the bowl? Are you that dedicated? Don't worry Ben, I'll still feed you. :p -Original Message- From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Man... doesn't anyone have wireless here

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2005-05-11 Thread Tony Weeg
Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta Subtle way of saying in the bathroom? ;o) Rey... - Original Message - From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk

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2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
If you have a licensed copy of CF they are free (used to be) -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 15:18 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Those bound, printed copies cost $150 for the set. I'm thinking sub $40 per book

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2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I have an ethernet port in the WC;-) You just never know when you need to use it... -Original Message- From: Ewok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 15:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Wireless on the bowl? Are you that dedicated? Don't worry

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2005-05-11 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Those bound, printed copies cost $150 for the set. I'm thinking sub $40 per book for the WACK and Advanced WACK is a better deal

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2005-05-11 Thread Calvin Ward
) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta If you have a licensed copy of CF they are free (used to be) -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 15:18 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I

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2005-05-11 Thread Clint Tredway
truly hate Ben Forta Subtle way of saying in the bathroom? ;o) Rey... - Original Message - From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta the main reason I buy books

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2005-05-11 Thread George Abraham
Wireless is the way to go baby! And I have to say Wireless on the Bowl wbagnfarb (would be a good name for a rock band). George risking being cfcommunitized by the great MD / On 5/11/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an ethernet port in the WC;-) You just

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2005-05-11 Thread Yves Arsenault
-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta If you have a licensed copy of CF they are free (used to be) -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 15:18 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Those bound, printed copies cost $150

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2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Airplane? I would be lost without my laptop on a plane! -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 15:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta while on an airplane, riding in a car, etc... plus there are times I want to look at a book

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2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Wireless is just to unreliable and slow for the files I need to transfer (raw uncompressed video footage) -Original Message- From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 15:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta Wireless is the way to go baby! And I

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2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Airplane? I would be lost without my laptop on a plane! -Original Message- From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 15:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta Wireless is the way to go baby! And I have to say Wireless on the Bowl wbagnfarb (would

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2005-05-11 Thread Bryan Stevenson
my standup jetski is not yet web ready ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com

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2005-05-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
Having books around for others to reference here at work has been one of the better things I have done. Since we work a lot with CF5 still here, I have a wrox CF5 book, CFWACK 5, O'Reilly's CF 5 book and then an O'Reilly HTML and Javascript books sitting here. Do not think I have ever

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2005-05-11 Thread Ben Forta
And for that, my kids' college funds thank you. ;-) --- Ben PS I wish! -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:00 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because

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2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
lol -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 16:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta And for that, my kids' college funds thank you. ;-) --- Ben PS I wish! -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

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2005-05-11 Thread Ben Forta
of magnitude better than they were way back when, thank goodness for that. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Those bound, printed copies cost $150 for the set

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2005-05-11 Thread Jeff Garza
: I truly hate Ben Forta while on an airplane, riding in a car, etc... plus there are times I want to look at a book and not my screen ;) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application

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2005-05-11 Thread Jeff Garza
Now that's dedicated! - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:18 AM Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta I have an ethernet port in the WC;-) You just never know when you need

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2005-05-11 Thread Tony Weeg
: I truly hate Ben Forta I have an ethernet port in the WC;-) You just never know when you need to use it... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start

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2005-05-11 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta who needs ethernet? my wireless work in my wc Yours is wireless!? Mine's still firmly attached... despite my wife's best efforts

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2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
hate Ben Forta Wouldnt the Advanced CF 7 book be of more benefit than the CFWACK book? -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because

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2005-05-11 Thread Rebecca Wells
3.1 was blue (2nd edition).my first CF Bible ;-) Mine too. Heck, I bought 2 copies, one for the office, one for home for when I can't sleep trying to figure out how to make some code work in my head. (Since I was just learning CF back then, I spent more nights like that then I do now!)

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2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
... - Original Message - From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:24 AM Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta i was about to say the same thing. if im working, or need cf ANYTHING, im online and thats that. not sure how you can

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2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
hahahahahaha. Rey... - Original Message - From: Ben Forta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:22 AM Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta And for that, my kids' college funds thank you. ;-) --- Ben PS I wish! -Original

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2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Ya know, it's a good thing I am not the overly sensitive type, or constantly seeing this thread in my inbox would really upset me. :-) FWIW, lost of folks are indeed buying CFWACK and CFADV

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2005-05-11 Thread Rick Faircloth
From: Mark Smyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:28 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta I'm with Neil on this. I have bought the CFWACK since 4.5, but I will not be buying version 7 If I need to find out something its, 1. CF Docs

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2005-05-11 Thread Tony Weeg
i used to cfwhack mine, but now its wireless so i just do it off the hook :) tw ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or

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2005-05-11 Thread Tony Weeg
no shit. really? wow. i was wondering :) i unplug ALL THE TIME, trust me... but i can get ONLINE within seconds, so im not too worried about not having access... its there, just kinetically. tw On 5/11/05, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple dude. You turn off the PC and your PDA. ;o)

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2005-05-11 Thread Connie DeCinko
Mine is put to good use... Holding up my printer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Well I still have my 4.0 CFWACK if anyone wants

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2005-05-11 Thread Ewok
L-O-L! -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta i used to cfwhack mine, but now its wireless so i just do it off the hook :) tw

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2005-05-11 Thread Rick Faircloth
From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:37 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta while on an airplane, riding in a car, etc... plus there are times I want to look at a book and not my screen ;) On 5/11/05, Tony

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2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta no shit. really? wow. i was wondering :) i unplug ALL THE TIME, trust me... but i can get ONLINE within seconds, so im not too worried about not having access... its there, just kinetically. tw On 5/11

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2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
I can tell. I've seen your code!! Doh!!! j/k Connie. Rey... - Original Message - From: Connie DeCinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:12 PM Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Mine is put to good use... Holding up my printer

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2005-05-11 Thread Will Tomlinson
I must admit, I have a special rack for my WACK right beside the commode. It's even marked CFWACK. If anyone touches, removes, or defaces it, they shall suffer a horrendous fate! I have a sign posting that as well. :) Will

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2005-05-11 Thread dave
too bad you can't read! But you REALLY like the pictures ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:21 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta I must admit, I have