Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-15 Thread Deanna Schneider
Actually, I still fire up sql plus for some things - updating passwords, for example is so much easier if just done from a command line. Of course, for things like moving data between schemas, TOAD wins hands down. On 3/14/06, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Munson, Jacob wrote: >

Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Tony
wow, thats a surprise :) tw On 3/14/06, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Munson, Jacob wrote: > > > > Right. But before this came out, you had what...SQL+ or whatever it's > > called? Everybody, if you like doing SQL work from a command line, > > raise your hand. > > /me raises ha

Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Munson, Jacob wrote: > > Right. But before this came out, you had what...SQL+ or whatever it's > called? Everybody, if you like doing SQL work from a command line, > raise your hand. /me raises hand I haven't used SQL+ in ages, but do recent versions support tab autocomplete, shell integratio

RE: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Munson, Jacob
>> Everybody, if you like doing SQL work from a command line, >> raise your hand. > > I don't know if I like it, but I do rely on it - you may or > may not have GUI > access to a database, but you almost always have access through a > command-line interface. Yeah, good point. SQL*Plus is a good

RE: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Dave Watts
> Everybody, if you like doing SQL work from a command line, > raise your hand. I don't know if I like it, but I do rely on it - you may or may not have GUI access to a database, but you almost always have access through a command-line interface. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.fig

Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Aaron Rouse
Didn't Oracle release some sort of Visual Studio plugin awhile back or have I been hitting the old crack pipe too much lately? Keep thinking it had something to do with Oracle XE On 3/14/06, Munson, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There is no way this tool looks anything like SQL Server's

RE: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Munson, Jacob
> There is no way this tool looks anything like SQL Server's > tool. The IDE of SQL Server 2005 also comes with a specific > version of Visual Studio for SQL Server to design reports and > to make SSIS(sql server integration services replaces DTS). > It's a good start for Oracle and it will all

Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 17:06, Thomas Chiverton wrote: > > I've been using this since it was code-named Raptor. Its nice, beats > Last time I looked, it didn't have working insight or storage of user > scripts. :downloads Nope, Oracle still can't write shell scripts :hacks . time passes

Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 14:50, Douglas Knudsen wrote: > I've been using this since it was code-named Raptor. Its nice, beats Last time I looked, it didn't have working insight or storage of user scripts. > AquaDataStudio ADS looks nicer to me. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programme

Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Aaron Rouse
I use quite a bit of the features in my version here which is not the full blown one that has the DBA stuff. Admitedly I probably do not even use a 1/3rd of all the features the tool has though. I find it extrememely helpful to use for things like writing custom functions and stored procedures.

Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Robert Everland III
> I'd say that Oracle is competing with Microsoft by releasing this. > SQL > server 2005 comes with Management Studio which looks a LOT like > Oracle's > new tool. Toad is a 3rd party tool that is not free. Many companies > trying to decide between Oracle and SQL Server might choose SQL > Ser

Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Aaron Rouse
I am going to have to download this tool again. When I got it in beta it was "ok" but did not leave me with the impression of having near the abilities of what the tools for MSSQL 2005 give. I am surprised people are complaining about Toad crashing. I honestly can not think of a time my Toad has

Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Douglas Knudsen
yeah, and for a web app developer, just how many of these uber rich features that cost so much do you really use? A DBA might use them, yes. That said, our DBA here has been in contact with Quest for awhile, even gets beta releases. He's seen bugs get fixed and reintroduced again in a later vers

RE: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Munson, Jacob
> it's nice that Oracle has finally released a tool > to compete with TOAD. I'd say that Oracle is competing with Microsoft by releasing this. SQL server 2005 comes with Management Studio which looks a LOT like Oracle's new tool. Toad is a 3rd party tool that is not free. Many companies trying

Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Deanna Schneider
Really? We're recent converts to TOAD from sql nav, and we're super happy. It occasionally throws an error for me, but not very often. And, the feature set is uber rich. If you're having problems, I suggest you join the yahoo group and provide some feedback to the developers. Suggestions are usuall

Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Wayne Putterill
+1 for Toad getting to be a right pain in the rear, I'm lucky if I get an hours solid use out of it and don't get me started on the menu structure... On 3/14/06, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been using this since it was code-named Raptor. Its nice, beats > AquaDataStudio fo

Re: Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Douglas Knudsen
I've been using this since it was code-named Raptor. Its nice, beats AquaDataStudio for sure in my book. We have many Toad licenses around here, but Toad seems to be getting buggy and flaky as time goes on. And its not cheap. DK On 3/14/06, Robert Everland III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Orac

Oracle SQL Developer

2006-03-14 Thread Robert Everland III
Oracle just announced a new SQL development tool. http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/sql_developer/index.html I use Oracle 8i and it doesn't look like it will work for this version, so I will probably continue to use Aqua Data Studio, but it's nice that Oracle has finally relea