> One comment was that SCSI interface to hard drives is
> better than ATA IDE interface. Why?
Such statements need qualifications. In the most generic terms, SCSI
RAID solutions generally provide higher performance. It comes as at a
cost, however. IDE RAID solutions are much cheaper (both the co
> If you want to know more, go to www.storagereview.com
> and have a look around.
StorageReview.com? You mean the site which has perpetually listed the
ATA-100 Western Digital SE drives in the top 5 for just about every
performance test for the past 6 months. :)
Benjamin S. Rogers
http://www.c4
> Also SCSI devices can communicate at the same time with the
controller,
> and can even communicate with eachother without interference of a
> controller. This makes them better for concurrent requests.
>
That only makes them better in the case where the host CPU is burdened.
Generally speaking
you've never been to a bachelor party?
he he
Striping puts data on two or more hard drives (actually partitions)
where half the data is on one hard drive and the other half on the
other. This increases your speed since you use BOTH the hard drives at
the same time to get each half of th
--Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [SOT] Server Hard Drives
On Friday, August 2, 2002, at 02:06 PM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
> It is striping.
>
I'll bite, what's striping (as per
> striping w/o parity... only good version of that would be RAID 0+1...
>
If you want redundancy and speed than 0+1 (0/1) is the only way to go.
However, I only use RAID 0/1 on servers that can't be horizontally
scaled. IMHO, any server that can be horizontally scaled can be made
more redundant w
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> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 2:07 PM
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> Subject: RE: [SOT] Server Hard Drives
>
> It is striping.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:02 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subje
On Friday, August 2, 2002, at 02:06 PM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
> It is striping.
>
I'll bite, what's striping (as pertains to RAID)?
TIA
Dick
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also - when one drive goes bad - depending on RAID level setup - you
don't lose data- you can toss a drive and get all your data back.
jay miller
Dick Applebaum wrote:
OK, what's stripping?
TIA
Dick
On Friday, August 2, 2002, at 01:34 PM, Matt Liotta wrote:
That is not true for all lev
Matt Liotta wrote:
> Oops! Let me try again.
>
>
>>SCSI supports concurrent requests better than IDE does.
>>
>
> This is a myth.
That is not entirely true.
The caching strategy used in (extremely fast (eg 10k+)) SCSI harddrives
is better for Random Access than for Continues Access. That's o
future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [SOT] Server Hard Drives
It is striping.
-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto
you've never been to a bachelor party?
he he
Striping puts data on two or more hard drives (actually partitions)
where half the data is on one hard drive and the other half on the
other. This increases your speed since you use BOTH the hard drives at
the same time to get each half of the data
j
ugust 02, 2002 4:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [SOT] Server Hard Drives
> SCSI has been better because of throughput and disk speed until
> recently...
> now its more of a simultaneous channels available to speak to either
> format... the latest ATA stuff is very comparable with S
It is striping.
-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [SOT] Server Hard Drives
OK, what's stripping?
TIA
Dick
On Friday, August 2, 2002, at 01:34 PM, Matt Liotta wrote:
> That is
OK, what's stripping?
TIA
Dick
On Friday, August 2, 2002, at 01:34 PM, Matt Liotta wrote:
> That is not true for all levels of RAID. Specifically, stripping without
> parity can result in a significant performance increase.
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> In recent posts, and other times in past posts, people have dismissed
> Apple's Xserve as not ready for prime time as far as servers go.
>
They seem quite good to me.
> But, I have heard that Apple boxes (pre-Xserve) have been used for
years
> as servers in Universities, and places like Ford,
> SCSI has been better because of throughput and disk speed until
> recently...
> now its more of a simultaneous channels available to speak to either
> format... the latest ATA stuff is very comparable with SCSI and costs
far
> less.
>
You simply buy more ATA controllers to get comparable perfor
n Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 1:43 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [SOT] Server Hard Drives
>
> > This is a myth.
>
>
> Which part of that was a myth?
>
>
> This is a myth.
Which part of that was a myth?
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:-)
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 4:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [SOT] S
>I have heard that Apple boxes (pre-Xserve) have been used for years
>as servers in Universities, and places like Ford, and some others
Most certainly. Macs were happily serving up web pages long before there was
a decent web server for the Windows platform. I do recall that back in the
1993/94
> SCSI supports concurrent requests better than IDE does. In a
multitasking
> environment, like you'd find on a server, this is more important than
on
> the
> typical desktop, in which the application on the user's screen is
> typically
> doing most of the work.
>
This is a myth.
-Matt
ahh hardware.. my box of joy :)
SCSI has been better because of throughput and disk speed until recently...
now its more of a simultaneous channels available to speak to either
format... the latest ATA stuff is very comparable with SCSI and costs far
less.
RAID is an excellent technology for fil
> But, I have heard that Apple boxes (pre-Xserve) have been
> used for years as servers in Universities, and places like
> Ford, and some others
Anything can be used as a server. You could rack-mount laptops. (I could
tell some funny stories at this point, but won't.) However, machines
designed
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