, May 04, 2001 8:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I hope that is correct and my reason for worry is no more. I also know that
MM reads this list and wanted them to know how important it is to us as
developers.
Nathan Stanford
Senior Programmer/Analyst
[EMAIL
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Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
** Macromedia Representative **
Are you sure they are joining? My impression was that the article was
recommending both products? Remember that you can get integration with them
to make things kinda
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Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I hope that is correct and my reason for worry is no more. I also know that
MM reads this list and wanted them to know how important it is to us as
developers.
Nathan Stanford
I would love to see them combined. Add studio's code editor to the UD
WYSIWYG editor - how can you beat that combination. Make it seemless to
switch back and forth! I never could get Studios design mode to work right
- just replace it with UD!
Al
At 03:02 PM 5/5/2001 -0700, you wrote:
ABSOLUTELY
jd
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I would love to see them combined. Add studio's code editor to the UD
WYSIWYG editor
Set Studio as your external code editor and press ctrl-e
jon
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Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 6:56 PM
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ABSOLUTELY
jd
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Yeah but even now UD just show little yellow bolts of lightning for
ColdFusion code.
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I would love to see them combined. Add
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Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I would love to see them combined. Add studio's code editor to the UD
WYSIWYG editor
Yes it is only a bundling of CF Studio and Ultradev together.But
unless we all speak up loud, this will be the trend .. Macromedia's view
of the world is the Dreamweaver/Ultradev vision. Where is you want to do
what the evangelist does in the demos, you're in clover. But since in 30
years
: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I'll say what I just said on the UK CFUG dev/chat list.
Read This:
http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm
No where in that article does it say that it is one product.
They are just packaged together in one
Hi-
That's right, both ColdFusion Studio and UltraDev continue to be
available as separate products. If you like, you can buy them
together in a studio bundle at a lower price.
There's a FAQ that Jeff Whatcott put together at:
http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20899#2201
thanks
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Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
NNOOO
Terry Bader
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Lower than AUD$2,000.00?
I'd buy that for a dollar!
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Sent: Friday, 4 May 2001 15:03
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Hi-
That's right, both ColdFusion Studio and UltraDev continue to be
available
Kevin Lynch wrote:
That's right, both ColdFusion Studio and UltraDev continue to be
available as separate products. If you like, you can buy them
together in a studio bundle at a lower price.
Any chance we can get a long term commitment from Macromedia to ensure that
Studio stays a separate
Merging ? Nah.
The're selling them together, and setting studio up as the default external
editor in UltraDev.
Like I already have :-)
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Interestingly, I can give a definitive answer on the subject...
Adam Berrey, Macromedia VP of Application Server Business (ex-Allaire, and
apparently Allaire employee #10 in 1996) has
At 9:15 PM 5/3/1, Michael Kear wrote:
Anyway, unless we have some input to Macromedia, we'll end up
with a Studio that looks like Ultradev.
As noted previously, this is understood, but if you'd still like to drive
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Looks like jsut a bundling to me.
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From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL
Hey Macromedia...
I know someone is out there listening...
Most CF developers like Studio. Most like it a lot.
VERY BAD MOVE. Talk about giving it to CF developers where it hurts.
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From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:29
It doesn't sound like they're merging them into one product, more like
they're selling them in a package, sort of like they sell Fireworks, Flash,
and Dreamweaver (I think those are the three) in a package.
Evan
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NNOOO
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I'll say what I just said on the UK CFUG dev/chat list.
Read This:
http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm
No where in that article does it say that it is one product.
They are just packaged together in one box.
Regards
Stephen
** Macromedia Representative **
Are you sure they are joining? My impression was that the article was
recommending both products? Remember that you can get integration with them
to make things kinda seamless. I didn't read the article as stating they
were
Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Read This:
http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/
tools.cfm
According to this, they're simply going to sell the separate Studio and
Ultradev products as a bundle.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
A product package, not a product merger.
--
Billy Cravens
HR Web Development, Sabre
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Nathan Stanford wrote:
Read This:
http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm
Nathan Stanford
Senior Programmer/Analyst
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Is this a new product? Or CF studio and MM UltraDev in the same retail box?
Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
Vivid Media
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www.vividmedia.com
608.270.9770
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From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
Nathan Stanford wrote:
Read This:
http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm
Its quite obviously a PR piece about the integration between the two
products. In fact it says
using the seamless integration between ColdFusion 4.5 UltraDev 4 Studio
Not sure how you
Nathan,
From the sounds of it, its going to be a bundle package with ultradev4.
Right now in the two UltraDev4 packages you get Homesite, with this it
sounds like you will be getting CF Studio. Not too shabby if they go for
the discounting like they've done with the UD4 and Fireworks Studio
Perhaps a Macromedia representative could elaborate on this...
Will our Subscriptions to CFStudio 4.5 be honored for the ColdFusion 4.5
UltraDev 4 Studio product? Or is it only valid for an upgrade to the as yet
undisclosed CF5.0 Studio? The website was unclear and there was no mention
of what
I hope you are right that is not the impression I got from reading the
release! (hoping I am wrong)
btc
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From: Evan Lavidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 12:25 PM
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Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
It doesn't sound like
about bundling.
-- Owen
Athens County Library Services
http://www.athenscounty.lib.oh.us
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From: Costas Piliotis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Hey
My my, how quick we are to assume They are just saying how they offer both those
products. Cold Fusion Studio is not going away in the near future.
Ultra Dev and CF Studio are two products different in many respects. We as developers
need to continue to express our wishes as far as these
, May 03, 2001 1:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I'll say what I just said on the UK CFUG dev/chat list.
Read This:
http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm
No where in that article does it say that it is one product
:thinksaboutit:
Aren't Ultra Dev and Homesite integrated together somehow? Homesite
being so close to CF Studio, I imagine this is the same thing.
At 06:34 PM 05/03/2001 +0100, you wrote:
I'll say what I just said on the UK CFUG dev/chat list.
Read This:
I don't think they are talking about merging the two products as onethey are just
talking about using them together side-by-side.
Re-read that page one more time. It took me a couple just to be sure, and besides, I
already have the UltraDev they are talking about. The product has a lot of
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From: Stephen Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I'll say what I just said on the UK CFUG dev/chat list.
Read This:
http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion
I'm almost certain that they're just bundling right now, not actually
combining the products. It's a little funny that they'll sell them in the
same box, because UD often rewrites CF code on complex pages unpredictably.
Regards,
Marc Garrett
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From: Nathan Stanford
Why must we keep getting bad news from MM???
Rich
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From: Terry Bader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
NNOOO
Terry Bader
IT/Web Specialist
Exactly. For details, check out the tools section of the ColdFusion Server 5
release FAQ available at:
http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20899.
Jeff Whatcott
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From: Billy Cravens
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From: Billy Cravens
To: CF-Talk
Sent: 5/3/01 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
A product package, not a product merger.
--
Billy Cravens
HR Web Development, Sabre
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Nathan Stanford wrote:
Read This:
http://www.allaire.com/products
Interestingly, I can give a definitive answer on the subject...
Adam Berrey, Macromedia VP of Application Server Business (ex-Allaire, and
apparently Allaire employee #10 in 1996) has been visiting Australia this
week and I took the opportunity to discuss with him a number of issues
relating to
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