> -Original Message-
> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 11:57 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: COAL- the Coldfusion Open Application Library
>
> >> These are then managed by collection CFCs called
> >>
>> These are then managed by collection CFCs called
>> "mediators" - any request for this information
>> comes through the mediator (so that any updates are
>> immediately reflected in the system - none of this
>> "changes will take affect next login BS).
Members onTap does that too, although it's
> When I built my system I gave this a lot of thought. Here are the features
> that I've built that I think are important for such a system:
>
> The DP Libraries system focuses on three fundamental aspects of a user in a
> security context:
>
> 1) Credential: This is the information the user nee
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 11:11 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: COAL- the Coldfusion Open Application Library
>
> Alright, sounds good. So what type of security are we talking about?
> Th
> Sorry, but I havent really had a chance to check
> out those libraries yet.
Was this comment specifically about my framework?
If so don't sweat it. Everybody's busy, I understand. :)
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> Alright, sounds good. So what type of security are we
> talking about?
> Things like authentication and login models? Or are we
> talking more
> like encryption?
> Sorry, but I havent really had a chance to check out those
> libraries yet.
login model / user authentication -- roles and permis
Alright, sounds good. So what type of security are we talking about?
Things like authentication and login models? Or are we talking more
like encryption?
Sorry, but I havent really had a chance to check out those libraries yet.
--
Ryan Guill
BlueEyesDevelopment
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:19 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: COAL- the Coldfusion Open Application
>> Library
>>
>> Hey guys, sorry to keep resurecting this
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:19 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: COAL- the Coldfusion Open Application Library
>
> Hey guys, sorry to keep resurecting this thread, but wanted some
> inp
i make admins to manage database tables.
(add, update, delete functionality)
tw
On 9/1/05, Ryan Guill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey guys, sorry to keep resurecting this thread, but wanted some
> input. I have had a lot of people that are still unsure of the
> concept of COAL and so I would li
Hey guys, sorry to keep resurecting this thread, but wanted some
input. I have had a lot of people that are still unsure of the
concept of COAL and so I would like to develop a useful service for
COAL and then I can do a tutorial or article explaining how this will
help developers.
So my question
Well guys I wanted to take a chance now that the thread has started to
die down a little to thank you for your support and interest so far.
Please continue to ask any questions you may have. If you are
interested in helping with the project, let me encourage you to sign
up for the google group fo
>> -Original Message-
>> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:30 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: COAL- the Coldfusion Open Application
>> Library
>>
>> > Accolades are nice... but heck - I&
> -Original Message-
> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:30 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: COAL- the Coldfusion Open Application Library
>
> > Accolades are nice... but heck - I'd much rather argue
>
> Well asside from licensing... You could very well declare in the
> license that it's not permissible to integrate commercial components
> through COAL, although I would think that would be contrary to the
> desire for increased involvement in the project. I figured COAL would
> probably be going
>> Yeah, that was my interpretation... I didn't mean to
>> imply that I
>> thought commercial components would be included in the
>> COAL download
>> -- merely that it would be permissible for commercial
>> components to be
>> implemented via COAL.
>>
> Yes, thats true. Honestly the way COAL is s
> Yeah, that was my interpretation... I didn't mean to imply that I
> thought commercial components would be included in the COAL download
> -- merely that it would be permissible for commercial components to be
> implemented via COAL.
>
Yes, thats true. Honestly the way COAL is set up though, t
> On 8/29/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > The stuff on exchange isn't necessarily free either.
>>
>> Yeah, that's not really an argument for COAL as I
>> understand it tho...
>> iirc and if I'm reading him correctly, his intent is for
>> the licensing
>> (once it's finalized) to
On 8/29/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The stuff on exchange isn't necessarily free either.
>
> Yeah, that's not really an argument for COAL as I understand it tho...
> iirc and if I'm reading him correctly, his intent is for the licensing
> (once it's finalized) to allow comme
> The stuff on exchange isn't necessarily free either.
Yeah, that's not really an argument for COAL as I understand it tho...
iirc and if I'm reading him correctly, his intent is for the licensing
(once it's finalized) to allow commercial components to be integrated
into the otherwise open-source
> Accolades are nice... but heck - I'd much rather argue
> with somebody about one of my contributions that get
> nice, but contextually empty praise. The former may
> not always be pleasant but it's almost always
> constructive.
Speaking of which, hey Jim, I've been meaning to tell you your CFC'
> -Original Message-
> From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:52 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: COAL- the Coldfusion Open Application Library
>
> This is borderline thread crapping. It's far from reinventing the whee
to contribute something to the community. I wish there
> were more people like you."
>
> Thanks Ryan.
>
> Emmet
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:03 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE:
The stuff on exchange isn't necessarily free either.
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: COAL- the Coldfusion Open Application Library
On 8/29/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
ks Ryan.
Emmet
-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: COAL- the Coldfusion Open Application Library
I think your reinventing the wheel here.
There is already the macromedia developers exchange, and cflib.org
> You are right, and that is something I hope to address soon. I dont
> know anything when it comes to licenses and so I hope to get some
> advice on that and update that part soon.
I feel your pain :-)
I would suggest this:
http://www.phptr.com/title/0131487876
Or:
http://www.oreilly.com/catal
On 8/29/05, Massimo Foti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ryan, I like the idea and I quite share the vision behind what you are
> trying to do. I hope you will keep driving the project forward.
Thanks massimo, I appreciate that!
> After looking into COAL I have two comments:
>
> - It's not clear u
Ryan, I like the idea and I quite share the vision behind what you are
trying to do. I hope you will keep driving the project forward.
After looking into COAL I have two comments:
- It's not clear under which license you distribute the code. When you just
say "code copywright respective authors"
Thanks for the link Hugo.
Its also worth pointing out that this isnt a new framework in the
sense of mach-ii, model-glue or fusebox. This is not a framework for
building sites, its basically like a utilitiy framework that allows
you quick and easy access to the components. Also, the framework
i
, August 29, 2005 14:28
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: COAL- the Coldfusion Open Application Library
|
| On 8/29/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > I think your reinventing the wheel here.
| >
| > There is already the macromedia developers exchange, and
| cflib.org to
| >
On 8/29/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think your reinventing the wheel here.
>
> There is already the macromedia developers exchange, and cflib.org to name
> but two free repository of reusable coldfusion code.
>
> Snake
Snake, I think youre missing the idea here. It is not only to h
> This doesn't sound to dissimilar to the libraries I've been publishing and
> poorly documenting here:
>
> http://www.depressedpress.com/depressedpress/Content/Development/ColdFusion/
> DPLibraries/Index.cfm
>
> The idea here being the creation of "service" applications which lack
> interfaces b
I think your reinventing the wheel here.
There is already the macromedia developers exchange, and cflib.org to name
but two free repository of reusable coldfusion code.
Snake
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 August 2005 18:56
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CO
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 1:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: COAL- the Coldfusion Open Application Library
>
> Hi,
>
> My name is Ryan Guill and I am developing an open-source framework for
> ColdFusion called COAL, whi
On 8/28/05, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> thats kinda funny, i bought www.coalfusion.com just a couple months ago
> cause where i live, thats how the idiot rednecks pronounce coldfusion :)
>
> coalfusion.
Ah, so youre the reason I had so much trouble whe I tried to find a
domain name for coal
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