RE: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread cfhelp
IF the DNS has a wild card entry and there is not a blank Host header for the site in IIS and they type a URL that does not have a host header they will be directed to the Default Website with the All Unassigned Header This is usually locked down. Rick -Original Message- From:

Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Don
Sorry, could you elaborate a bit? IF the DNS has a wild card entry and there is not a blank Host header for the site in IIS and they type a URL that does not have a host header they will be directed to the Default Website with the All Unassigned Header This is usually locked down. Rick

RE: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread cfhelp
to the default site. That site is usually the IIS Administration site and is Locked down. Rick -Original Message- From: Chunshen Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security Sorry, could you elaborate a bit

Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Don
Forgot to add in case you wonder, I understand the IWAM_{machineOrHostName} NT user account is required to be enabled to start the IIS server, it's related but that relevant to the problem at hand. A client informed me that his site (on NT class OS and IIS web server) now required Network

Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Don
OK. I'm with you.Now, as my original posting indicated the IUSR_{machineOrHostName} NT user account needs to be enabled, by default, this user belongs to Web Anonymous Users group (which I guess created by IIS during installation or the like).Question, how do you find out which directories/folders

Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Don
is usually the IIS Administration site and is Locked down. Rick -Original Message- From: Chunshen Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security Sorry, could you elaborate a bit? new NT

RE: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread cfhelp
: Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security Ahe, under default web site right under web site, the options show as you described, the setting on my box is same as what you said, now, question, if my client's box has some entry/TEXT for the Host

Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Don
, 2004 10:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security Ahe, under default web site right under web site, the options show as you described, the setting on my box is same as what you said, now, question, if my client's box has some entry/TEXT for the Host Header Name, in other

RE: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Dave Watts
Ahe, under default web site right under web site, the options show as you described, the setting on my box is same as what you said, now, question, if my client's box has some entry/TEXT for the Host Header Name, in other words, not blank, then, it would require NT logon? It does not

RE: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Dave Watts
Forgot to add in case you wonder, I understand the IWAM_{machineOrHostName} NT user account is required to be enabled to start the IIS server, it's related but that relevant to the problem at hand. The IWAM_MACHINENAME account is only required for running out-of-process applications.

RE: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Dave Watts
A client informed me that his site (on NT class OS and IIS web server) now required Network password to logon. I suspected it's NT Challenge/Response and IIS Security problem with his new setup. Did quick research to confirm my suspicion, seems that my suspicion is valid, it seems at

Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Don
Good info.Sorry I forgot to mention about the cf server version, it's 5.0.Now, as I asked, how to determine IUSR_MACHINENAME account's privilege to web root doc directory and subdirectories? Under IIS, for a particular directory (folder), the two most probable options are: 1) All Tasks a)

RE: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Dave Watts
Now, as I asked, how to determine IUSR_MACHINENAME account's privilege to web root doc directory and subdirectories? Under IIS, for a particular directory (folder), the two most probable options are: 1) All Tasks a) permissions wizard (what's heck is the design! just tell me what who can

Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Don
Now, as I asked, how to determine IUSR_MACHINENAME account's You will have to check the filesystem using Windows Explorer or the command line. Yes, I did, as my other posting indicated, IUSR_MACHINENAME account does not show up in the Users/groups list under Security, however, my site is

RE: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Dave Watts
Yes, I did, as my other posting indicated, IUSR_MACHINENAME account does not show up in the Users/groups list under Security, however, my site is accessible by outside users, so, I guessed, IUSR_MACHINENAME may be associated implicitly by Microsoft, also, how about an unknown...account,

Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Don
Oops, sorry I forgot to mention I'm checking on my XP prof box, for XP prof there are no such user/group as of Everyone and Authenticated Users while your info could be helpful if my client's box uses this naming convention.Microsoft loves to play tricks on people :) Again thanks. The

RE: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Dave Watts
Oops, sorry I forgot to mention I'm checking on my XP prof box, for XP prof there are no such user/group as of Everyone and Authenticated Users while your info could be helpful if my client's box uses this naming convention. Microsoft loves to play tricks on people :) I don't have an XP

Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Don
Shoot, excuse me for the lang, I was so absent-minded, missed the key word, contextual in your last posting, OK, what's the nuance between EVERYONE and ANONYMOUS LOGON from a site access perspective? Man! you're very very detail-oriented, a great quality, I'd say. Don I don't have an XP box

RE: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Dave Watts
Shoot, excuse me for the lang, I was so absent-minded, missed the key word, contextual in your last posting, OK, what's the nuance between EVERYONE and ANONYMOUS LOGON from a site access perspective? The difference between them, from the perspective of setting filesystem permissions, is

Re: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Don
I would strongly recommend avoiding the use of Everyone when setting filesystem permissions, though. Use Authenticated Users instead. The IUSR_MACHINENAME account is also a member of that group. Excellent.I read about not to use EVERYONE account, however, I forgot (can't focus well these days,

RE: Challenge/Response and IIS Security

2004-05-13 Thread Dave Watts
Now, how would you determine if some of the users from the list may be fakeID/backdoor user account? One way, I guess might be, get mandatory or system default user account list for NT/XP/given win OS and then separate them from the rest, then examine the remaining?better approach? I