RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-12-21 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
> Known Netscape 6 bug list. > http://www.richinstyle.com/bugs/mozilla.html I just got a phone call from Rentokill about my Netscape 6 installation hehehehe Philip Arnold Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 "Websites for the real world" **

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-16 Thread Jesse
Yeah it sucks bad! - Original Message - From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH > Known Netscape 6 bug list. > > http://www.

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-16 Thread Jon Hall
Known Netscape 6 bug list. http://www.richinstyle.com/bugs/mozilla.html jon - Original Message - From: "Robert Everland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:04 AM Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-16 Thread Park, Simon
http://developer.netscape.com/docs/technote/dynhtml/collapse/index.html The example DHTML code on this page in netscape's site doesn't work in Netscape 6. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Simon Park Computer Systems Management, Inc. Ph: 703-823-4300 x119 205

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!! - i cant get to load, anyone else?

2000-11-16 Thread Mike Amburn
i've tried four installations and still i can't netscape 6 to load. it installs fine. but when i launch it, it displays the the splash screen that says "Netscape 6", the java console loads in my system tray, and that's all that happens. the process continues to run (using no CPU) until i end it wi

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-16 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers
> In case it helps anyone, this is the resource that I used to > make my stuff work in N6 as well as the other two: Thanks. Benjamin S. Rogers Web Developer, c4.net voice: (508) 240-0051 fax: (508) 240-0057 -

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-16 Thread Robert Everland
obert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 8:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH Go to www.dixonusa.com then click no flash then click shopping. That little application works perfect in IE 4-5 and Netscape 4.7 not 6 Bob -Original Me

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!! [OT]

2000-11-16 Thread Rob Keniger
on 11/16/00 8:39 PM, Nick Betts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Rob, I agree with your comments, but after looking at your company website > (home page and contact us only?) I wonder whether you are putting your > thoughts into actions.. You are, of course, free to assume what you like. -- Rob

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!! [OT]

2000-11-16 Thread Nick Betts
-Talk Subject: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH [OT] on 11/16/00 8:57 AM, Scott, Andrew at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I would consider Web Design easy, because it actually is. However its when > you wish to start to do application development that it becomes harder. I disagree with this statement

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-16 Thread DeVoil, Nick
In case it helps anyone, this is the resource that I used to make my stuff work in N6 as well as the other two: http://sites.netscape.net/ekrock/standards.html It tells you everything you need to know about what N6 *deliberately* won't handle. Doesn't help you with the N6 bugs of course. These

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!! [OT]

2000-11-16 Thread Rob Keniger
on 11/16/00 8:57 AM, Scott, Andrew at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I would consider Web Design easy, because it actually is. However its when > you wish to start to do application development that it becomes harder. I disagree with this statement. GOOD web design is not easy and the way in which y

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Robert Everland III
Go to www.dixonusa.com then click no flash then click shopping. That little application works perfect in IE 4-5 and Netscape 4.7 not 6 Bob -Original Message- From: Gavin Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 3:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Scott, Andrew
] -Original Message- From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 November 2000 16:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH Well I for one am thankful that it's not a piece of cake to develop reliable websites. If it was easy, there'd be a FrontPage that works fine, a

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Ken Wilson
> The thing that bugged me was the user isn't given an option to not have > any existing defaults changed during installation, NS6 just makes the > changes without asking. I was given the choice during the installation of NS6. Said no and all works just like it always has. Ken ---

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Chris Montgomery
>-Original Message- >From: Gavin Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:31 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH > > >Does anyone have any specific examples of things that don't >work like they >used to? L

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Dirk De Bock
there is a 25 meg file at ftp://ftp.netscape.com//pub/netscape6/english/6.0/windows/win32/sea/N6Setup. exe that should be the full install as far as I can tell Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
OTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 1:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH Any one else have trouble running it? I d/loaded and installed it fine, but It crashes on startup! I even uninstalled it, then reinstalled it and it still crashes! I'm not impressed. Jeff F

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Hales, John M
Yes, go to their FTP site: ftp.netscape.com it's under the 'pub' directory. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 11:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH My main question is: is there any

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Gavin Myers
I just downloaded N6 and didn't really see anything wrong with it so far. It has better support for CSS (a: hover works finally). But as of yet (last 30 minutes) i haven't seen any mission critical things with it yet. Does anyone have any specific examples of things that don't work like they use

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Robert Everland
6 out UGH My main question is: is there anyway to download the entire thing at once? (I hate these stupid internet setup programs that are starting to be popular. You can't save the thing to cdr or share to setup on intranet machines.)

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
11:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH My main question is: is there anyway to download the entire thing at once? (I hate these stupid internet setup programs that are starting to be popular. You can't save the thing to cdr or share to setup on intranet machines.)

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Jeff Fongemie
er 15, 2000 11:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH My main question is: is there anyway to download the entire thing at once? (I hate these stupid internet setup programs that are starting to be popular. You can't save the thing to cdr or share to setup on intranet machine

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread David Livingston
It gives you an option to save the setup files to disk. You should be able to copy those to a CD and do an install from the CD. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Jeremy Allen
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 11:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH My main question is: is there anyway to download the entire thing at once? (I hate these stupid internet setup programs that are starting to be popular. You can't save the thi

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Lanny R. Udey
Hi, Our observations are similar to Nicks. All of the issue we had with Netscape 6 ended up being our not adhering 100% to the standards. Both Netscape 4.X and IE 5 let much not-compliant code pass. To echo others from the list, the compliance CSS and DOM plus bug fixes for things in 4.X whic

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread John McKown
OTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:34 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, No

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread lsellers
My main question is: is there anyway to download the entire thing at once? (I hate these stupid internet setup programs that are starting to be popular. You can't save the thing to cdr or share to setup on intranet machines.) --min ---

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Paul Johnston
age- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 15 November 2000 15:34 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Kevin Miller
I disagree with this mentality completely. All browsers should be standards compliant so that us developers can spend more time doing the things we are really paid to do: develop kick-ass web-based APPLICATIONS. Spending hours tweaking this and that and making compromises to achieve some sembla

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Peter Theobald
.au > > > >On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Scott, Andrew wrote: > >> *lol* Well we can all wish/hope for miracles! >> >> regards >> >> Andrew Scott >> Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer >> ANZ eCommerce Centre >> * Ph 9273 0693 &

RE: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread Gavin Myers
: re: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH Isn't that a bit like riding a bicycle instead of owning a car, because a car may break down. I personally use IE, because it does more. if oyu look at netscape 6 they have obviously been looking to catch up to the goodies available in IE. Now what will y

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread wayne
- Original Message - From: "Scott, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:42 PM Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH > Correct me if I am wrong, but mozilla being the very first offical bro

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread mikec
> Whenever I'm sitting fretting over something tricky that isn't working > after 3 hours of working on it, I'm reminded of a sage word of wisdom my > father told me ... "No one pays big money for something any fool could > do!" > hmm apparently you haven't been following the US election very

re: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread mikec
on on netscape? Actually i lied i don't use IE i'm a Neoplanet man (a skin to IE5.0) maybe we need a recount Mike Cartier #code.monkey# > ** Original Subject: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH > ** Original Sender: "Justin Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ** Origin

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-15 Thread DeVoil, Nick
> I have basic Javascript in my browser that works completely > fine in Netscape 4.7. Now Netscape 6 comes out and it doesn't > work, what is up with that. I think there are a couple of different issues here. Firstly, the main reason JS written for NN4.7 won't work in N6 is that NN4.7 is *hideou

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Michael Kear
9273 0693 > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 15 November 2000 08:44 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH > > > Does any of this really matter? All that they should care

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Justin Scott
> > I see Netscape as the HTML equivalent to coding with "Strict Attribute > > Validation" turned on . > > I think you mean "lowest common denominator" Perhaps, but I was referring more to the fact that Netscape points out HTML problems much more readily than IE does, which forces the coder to fo

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Michael She
Virden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:50 PM >Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH > > > > In my opinion, IE was what killed the entire topic of web browsers - it > > stinks, Netscape is getting to be as ba

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Scott, Andrew
00 13:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH I for one could not find anything positive to say about Netscape 6. It never once blew me away. I have basic Javascript in my browser that works completely fine in Netscape 4.7. Now Netscape 6 comes out and it doesn't work, what is up

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Robert Everland III
Everyone can be a M$ hater all they want but at least they know how to make a browser. Bob Everland -Original Message- From: Scott, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 8:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH I think it depends a lot on Corpor

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Chris Lott
> I see Netscape as the HTML equivalent to coding with "Strict Attribute > Validation" turned on . I think you mean "lowest common denominator" c Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@house

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Scott, Andrew
] Sent: 15 November 2000 12:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH > IE, while not everyone's most favorite, actually does tolerate developers > more. It allows for errors. Figures out what you were most likely trying to do. > > Netscape doesn't allow for that as

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Scott, Andrew
Application Developer ANZ eCommerce Centre * Ph 9273 0693 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jaime Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 November 2000 11:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH This is a multi-part message in MIME format

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Kevin Miller
I'm sure that the Microsoft developers would be very surprised to hear this. Early versions of both Netscape and IE were both based on the original NCSA Mosaic code, but those days are long gone. Kevin >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/14/00 12:50PM >>> I also hate to tell you that IE and Netscape are

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Justin Scott
> IE, while not everyone's most favorite, actually does tolerate developers > more. It allows for errors. Figures out what you were most likely trying to do. > > Netscape doesn't allow for that as much. But if you do exactly what it had > intended, then it could very well work better than IE. For

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Jaime Garza
lla in USER_AGENT is from mozilla.org, but from the prehistory of Netscape. > -Original Message- > From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:38 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH > > > Have

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Scott, Andrew
: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH Does any of this really matter? All that they should care about is if there browser conforms the W3C specifications so I can count on things to work how they are suppose to. Not how they are suppose to according to Microsoft or Netscape or any other browser. I thought

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Dave Watts
> > IE is based off of Mozilla? > > Have you taken a look at your user_agent string lately? > > HTTP_USER_AGENT=Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0) That doesn't mean that IE is based off of Mozilla. It means that it identifies itself to HTTP servers as compatible with Netscape 4.

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Stuart Duncan
g to these >standards then Netscape. > >Rick > >-Original Message- >From: Raymond K. Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:28 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH > > >IE is based off of Mozilla? Did I wake up on

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Jon Hall
ber 14, 2000 4:28 PM Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH > IE is based off of Mozilla? Did I wake up on another planet today? As far as > I know, thats _defintely_ not the case. > (Although I prefer IE over Netscape as you do.) > >

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Rick Lamb
point of the W3C. I just always thought Microsoft did a better job at conforming to these standards then Netscape. Rick -Original Message- From: Raymond K. Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH IE is base

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Scott, Andrew
PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Raymond K. Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 November 2000 08:28 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH IE is based off of Mozilla? Did I wake up on another planet today? As far as I know, thats _defintely_ not the case. (Although I

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Chuck Hergenroeder
an you have to hate it. Greg - Original Message - From: Larry W. Virden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:50 PM Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH > In my opinion, IE was what killed the entire topic of web browsers - it > stink

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Dave Watts
> I also hate to tell you that IE and Netscape are based off > of the open source Mozilla project which Opera has followed > closely with. While I prefer IE to other browsers, I don't think there's anything in IE which has to do with Mozilla, or open source in general for that matter. For brow

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Raymond K. Camden
IE is based off of Mozilla? Did I wake up on another planet today? As far as I know, thats _defintely_ not the case. (Although I prefer IE over Netscape as you do.) === Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Al

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Greg Wolfinger
. Just because it's Microsoft doesn't mean you have to hate it. Greg - Original Message - From: Larry W. Virden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:50 PM Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH > In my opinion, IE was wha

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Larry W. Virden
In my opinion, IE was what killed the entire topic of web browsers - it stinks, Netscape is getting to be as bad, or perhaps even worse now, and everyone else went off and pouted because the big boys didn't want to let them play ball. That's too bad - at least the iCab, Opera and a few other team

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Jeremy Allen
Netscape 6 is crap, Go get a nightly build of Mozilla.. NO ONE is going to use or support Netscape 6 until they get it working right, they have not. It is a huge bloated marketing tool. Use Mozilla, its like the directors cut of netscape minus all the stupid BS like AIM and the AOL Icons on you

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Jaime Garza
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_00B6_01C04E25.AC752A10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On the other hand, I had code that only worked and looked good in IE, and broke badly in Netscape 4.75. With 6 it at le

Re: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Larry W. Virden
Perhaps it isn't a matter of Netscape 'not fixing' the language they invented, but a matter of them changing the way that the language works? Seems that's a pretty popular thing for people like Netscape, Microsoft, etc. to do on a quarterly basis... -- "See, he's not just anyone ... he's my son

RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-11-14 Thread Bert
go to www.netscape.com, click on the link to download netscape6, and javascript error: 'is_ie' is undefined nice Bert > -Original Message- > From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 14 November 2000 18:01 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Netscape 6 out UGH > > >