RE: Page Context Bug?

2003-08-04 Thread Tim Blair
Red Sky makes it much easier by fixing the page context bug... So you mean it's easier to write un-efficient and un-scalable solutions that still work... ;) Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new

Re: Page Context Bug?

2003-08-02 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Friday, Aug 1, 2003, at 11:28 US/Pacific, Matt Liotta wrote: Just to be clear, I didn't say it was impossible; just not efficient of scalable. And just to be clear, I didn't say it was impossible to write efficient frameworks using CFCs - merely that it was difficult. You certainly *could*

RE: Page Context Bug?

2003-08-01 Thread Raymond Camden
Take a CFC. Cache it (ie, application.foo = the cfc). On the 2nd-N page requests, any method in the cfc that references other scopes (imagine one that uses application.dsn) or tries to output instead of returning data, will fail.

RE: Page Context Bug?

2003-08-01 Thread Alexander Sherwood
At 09:18 AM 8/1/2003 -0500, you wrote: Take a CFC. Cache it (ie, application.foo = the cfc). On the 2nd-N page requests, any method in the cfc that references other scopes (imagine one that uses application.dsn) or tries to output instead of returning data, will fail. Gotcha, thanks. How is

RE: Page Context Bug?

2003-08-01 Thread Raymond Camden
Take a CFC. Cache it (ie, application.foo = the cfc). On the 2nd-N page requests, any method in the cfc that references other scopes (imagine one that uses application.dsn) or tries to output instead of returning data, will fail. Gotcha, thanks. How is this related to

Re: Page Context Bug?

2003-08-01 Thread Matt Liotta
When JSPs are created they have no relationship to a request and its subsequent response. Thus, they need a context to tie the request and response to themselves. The Servlet engine does this by providing a PageContext object. Since CFMs -- and unfortunately CFCs -- are just specialized

Re: Page Context Bug?

2003-08-01 Thread Alexander Sherwood
At 11:19 AM 8/1/2003 -0400, you wrote: When JSPs are created they have no relationship to a request and its subsequent response. Thus, they need a context to tie the request and response to themselves. The Servlet engine does this by providing a PageContext object. Since CFMs -- and

Re: Page Context Bug?

2003-08-01 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Friday, Aug 1, 2003, at 08:09 US/Pacific, Raymond Camden wrote: How is this related to PageContext, though? My understanding (and this is most likely wrong) is that the PageContext ob allows things like access to the scopes, access to output, etc. I'm probably wrong about it - but you get

Re: Page Context Bug?

2003-08-01 Thread Matt Liotta
It does make it difficult to write efficient frameworks using CFCs tho' so, for example, Mach II will require Red Sky to run efficiently. I'm glad you finally admitted that. -Matt ~| Archives:

RE: Page Context Bug?

2003-08-01 Thread Raymond Camden
And, as Ray says, the dread page context bug is fixed in Red Sky. Coming soon! And if it hasn't been said enough - RedSky fixes other CFC bugs as well as adding support for super(). In other words, RedSky kicks major butt. You can quote me on that.

Re: Page Context Bug?

2003-08-01 Thread zac spitzer
Matt Liotta wrote: It does make it difficult to write efficient frameworks using CFCs tho' so, for example, Mach II will require Red Sky to run efficiently. I'm glad you finally admitted that. so matt, you said a while back it was impossible to write mvc frameworks in cfmx, with the

Re: Page Context Bug?

2003-08-01 Thread Matt Liotta
Just to be clear, I didn't say it was impossible; just not efficient of scalable. In regards to RedSky, I can't answer that since I am not part of the beta program and even if I was I would be under NDA. Maybe in the future when RedSky is released it will be worth revisiting. -Matt On