RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-31 Thread Greg Luce
: Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 For what its worth, if you use the FriendlyURL servlet developed by Spike (http://www.spike.org.uk/go/friendly-urls) you get the following answers: ** Does using SES make web stats work better? Yes, absolutely.Your

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Bert Dawson
Subject: Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 I went through and removed all of the SES code in one of my sites, it's a shame they didn't let me know. I guess the question now is whether I should change the code back. Scott [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Craig Dudley
PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2003 10:36 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 I'd advise anyone starting from scratch to wrap the URL in a UDF and use that to determine whether it should be SES formatted or otherwise. Then next time a problem arises, or a change needs to be made

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 10:45 am, Craig Dudley wrote: I dont understand why you all want these types of url's. Search engines do not have any trouble whatsoever following dynamic links, True, but Google for instance will mark down pages on dynamic URLs, accessed via a dynamic URL. -- Tom

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Greg Luce
Does using SES make web stats work better? I've had more complaints about not having thorough web stats than search engine placement. Greg -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SES urls

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Kelly Tetterton
, the attorney's last name), it's very easy to identify which detail page it is. -Original Message- From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 Does using SES make web stats work better? I've had more complaints

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Greg Luce
Bert, Have you used SESConverter with a fusebox site? Greg -Original Message- From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 I'd advise anyone starting from scratch to wrap the URL in a UDF and use

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Bert Dawson
not particularly useful to know that index.cfm is the most popular page... Bert -Original Message- From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2003 12:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 Does using SES make web stats work better? I've had more complaints

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Raymond Camden
Question - how many people use foo.cfm in their SES URLs? I was under the impression one should try _not_ to use that, and instead should use SES URLs in the form of /foo/moo/thisisthecfmbutnoextension/id/5 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Bert Dawson
Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2003 14:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 Question - how many people use foo.cfm in their SES URLs? I was under the impression one should try _not_ to use that, and instead should use SES URLs in the form of /foo/moo

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Raymond Camden
Under IIS, I think you need a third party extension - I use one from Helicon, which is free for one server. For Apache, it's super simple and part of the server. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 12:45 pm, Greg Luce wrote: Does using SES make web stats work better? No. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Matt Robertson
Raymond wrote: Question - how many people use foo.cfm in their SES URLs? I was under the impression one should try _not_ to use that, and instead should use SES URLs in the form of /foo/moo/thisisthecfmbutnoextension/id/5 Just implemented something in my cms that lets an editor specify a

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Matt Robertson
Thomas wrote: Does using SES make web stats work better? No. Yes.Some stats programs just can't handle parameters.My admittedly older but still-in-use copy of LiveStats stops dead at the '?'.Same with Sawmill.It depends on the stats package. The 'friendly' SES urls I described in an earlier

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 17:10 pm, Matt Robertson wrote: Thomas wrote: Does using SES make web stats work better? No. Yes.Some stats programs just can't handle parameters. I wouldn't call a 'stats' package with such a bug a stats package :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Greg Luce
OK, then let's get right to the point. What stats package can handle fusebox urls? -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 17:10 pm, Matt Robertson

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Geoff Bowers
-Talk Subject: Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 17:10 pm, Matt Robertson wrote: Thomas wrote: Does using SES make web stats work better? No. Yes.Some stats programs just can't handle parameters. I wouldn't call a 'stats' package with such a bug a stats package :-) [Todays

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Geoff Bowers
Raymond Camden wrote: Under IIS, I think you need a third party extension - I use one from Helicon, which is free for one server. For Apache, it's super simple and part of the server. Ray, you gotta check out Spikes FriendlyURL servlet: http://www.spike.org.uk/go/friendly-urls.It works

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Greg Luce wrote: OK, then let's get right to the point. What stats package can handle fusebox urls? I know with the right combination of filtering and activating URL parameters, funnelweb does a very good job of handling fusebox params. regards, larry [Todays Threads] [This Message]

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Matt Liotta
Ray, you gotta check out Spikes FriendlyURL servlet: http://www.spike.org.uk/go/friendly-urls.  It works effectively the same as Apache mod_rewrite (but will run on IIS and Apache and the CFMX built-in server for that matter).  You can resolve the URL to any other URL including dynamic

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Geoff Bowers
Matt Liotta wrote: Ray, you gotta check out Spikes FriendlyURL servlet: http://www.spike.org.uk/go/friendly-urls.It works effectively the same as Apache mod_rewrite (but will run on IIS and Apache and the CFMX built-in server for that matter).You can resolve the URL to any other URL

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Dave Watts
In the mean time, me and me mates will be enjoying the benefits of a great little utility that does more than we could have asked for. Unfortunately, significant legal issues can arise when you use code without a clear license or some similar provenance, if you put that code into your

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Matt Liotta
Unfortunately, significant legal issues can arise when you use code without a clear license or some similar provenance, if you put that code into your client's application. These issues are unlikely to arise, but unpleasant when they do, from what I've seen and heard. On the bright side,

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Spike
Just to clarify for everyone here: The FriendlyURL servlet will be released under the CPL as soon as I get time to look back over the code and put some comments in it. I provided Daemon with a license to use the servelt in FarCry without limitation, but I have been too busy to get round to

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Matt Liotta
The point of the FriendlyURL Servlet is that the URL typed by the user does not need to have any variables encoded in it, so you can have a URL of the form: The whole concept of a search engine safe (SES) URL is the passing of URL parameters in a way that works well with search engines.

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Spike
This is a good point. Something I have been planning to add to the Servlet is the ability to perform 'traditional' SES URL rewriting. My lack of time for making these and other changes was the main reason for deciding to release the code to the community. Spike Matt Liotta wrote: The point

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Michael Wolfe
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 Under IIS, I think you need a third party extension - I use one from Helicon, which is free for one server. For Apache, it's super simple and part of the server. [Todays Threads

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Matt Liotta
Something I have been planning to add to the Servlet is the ability to perform 'traditional' SES URL rewriting. My lack of time for making these and other changes was the main reason for deciding to release the code to the community. I imagine it wouldn't take that long to incorporate the

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Matt Liotta
I've had great success with IIS using a custom 404 page. Just create a template to parse the url, place it in an out-of-the-way-folder, and configure IIS to use that template to handle 404's in that folder. Doesn't doing something like that cause the server to log successful page responses as

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Spike
Indeed, as long as you don't mind I'll try to get that rolled in to the version I release under the CPL. Spike Matt Liotta wrote: Something I have been planning to add to the Servlet is the ability to perform 'traditional' SES URL rewriting. My lack of time for making these and other changes

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-30 Thread Matt Liotta
Indeed, as long as you don't mind I'll try to get that rolled in to the version I release under the CPL. As I stated in the original email, the code is public domain. You can do with it as you will. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.MontaraSoftware.com (888)

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
What webserver? I've got it running on Website. Has anyone managed to get Search Engine Safe (SES) style URLs working on CFMX 6.1 when running on JRun? I didn't have any problems when using CFMX 6.1 with the built in JRun, but I can't get it to work with the full blown JRun and CFMX 6.1 running

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-29 Thread Bert Dawson
ert ps are you using the built in JRun or the full blown version? Sent: 29 October 2003 15:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 What webserver? I've got it running on Website. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
-Talk Subject: Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 What webserver? I've got it running on Website. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-29 Thread Ketan Patel
-Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 I'm using the standard install of CFMX. A review of the list archives gave me this URL which might have the answer for you on IIS: http

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-29 Thread Bert Dawson
a request like index.cfm/foo/bar to CFMX6.1 without needing an isapi filter? Cheers Bert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2003 16:25 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 I'm using the standard install of CFMX. A review of the list

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-29 Thread Ketan Patel
-Original Message- From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 IIS 5.1 Win XP Pro CFMX 6,1,0,63958 JRun 4 From the error i get it seems to be getting as far as Jrun, but doesn't know what to do when it gets

RE: SES urls on CFMX 6.1 - sorted!

2003-10-29 Thread Bert Dawson
Hurrah - thats the ticket! full details of the issue number 52942: http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/mx61_known_problems.html#generalserver Many thanks to everyone who helped. Cheers Bert -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SES urls on CFMX 6.1

2003-10-29 Thread Scott Brady
Matt Robertson wrote: OK, looks like tinyclick is no longer the resource it once was.Here's the actual url. http://webforums.macromedia.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?catid=3threadid=680232 http://webforums.macromedia.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?catid=3threadid=680232 ConsideringI