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> From: Bernd VanSkiver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Andy - if you've nothing to say on the issue then just don't say it! :)
J
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> From: Bernd VanSkiver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:20 AM
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> I have used dynamic OLEDB database connections many times with 4.0 and
4.5.
> Don't ha
Well aren't WE the clever one today!
-Gel
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oh the irony :)
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From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>BBbbLASPHEMERRR!!!
>Allaire is Forever!
You mean Macromedia... (?)
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Structure your ColdFusion c
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From: Zachary S. Bedell
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: To ASP or not to ASP
-> Examples?? Very interested in this.
->
-> "I have used dynamic OLEDB database connections many times
-> with 4.0 and 4.5.
->
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Subject: Repeats (Was RE: To ASP or not to ASP)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:11:00 -0600
Is it me, or are we getting repeats on this list. I've seen this
message below twice today.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AT INTERNET on 03/21/2001 07:51 AM
To: Dougla
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> From: Bernd VanSkiver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:20 AM
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> I have used dynamic OLEDB database connections many times with 4.0 and 4.5.
> Don't have to have a connec
At 08:51 AM 03/21/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>0_0
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>*lower lip trembles*
>*eye twitches*
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>BBbbLASPHEMERRR!!!
>Allaire is Forever!
You mean Macromedia... (?)
>Yh!
>*slings crumbs from morning muffin(dipped in coffee)*
>
>-Gel
>www.carigamer.com
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Unfortunately it looks like your CFQUERY tag was stripped out of the
message.
DC
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Subject: RE: To ASP or not to
Is it me, or are we getting repeats on this list. I've seen this
message below twice today.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AT INTERNET on 03/21/2001 07:51 AM
To: Douglas Knudsen/ATL/ALLTELCORP, [EMAIL PROTECTED] AT
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Subject: RE: To ASP or not to ASP
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Examples?? Very interested in this.
"I have used dynamic OLEDB database connections many times with 4.0 and 4.5.
Don't have to have a connection set up on the server even now.
Bernd VanSkiver
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>From: Howarth, Craig (IBK-NY) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 21 March 2001 14:32
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>I first d
At 08:43 AM 3/21/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>Anyone who relies solely on CF for marketability is in trouble already.
Anyone who relies on anyone thing is in trouble.
If you have a client that comes in and they already own Sun Servers and
Oracle running Netscape Enterprise then you must choose a too
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This works quite nicely on many apps I've
est of both worlds and cerate templates that use CF and
>ASP!!
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From: Bernd VanSkiver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: To ASP or not to ASP
I have used dynamic OLEDB database connections many times with 4.0 and 4.5.
Don't have to have a connection set up on the server even now.
Bernd VanSki
Why not take the best of both worlds and cerate templates that use CF and
ASP!!
Jason Lees
National Express
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From: Angél Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 March 2001 15:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [RE: To ASP or not to ASP
Seems to me that question assumes that CF/Allaire are going to stop
supporting both options which, based on their published materials, is not
the case. So, use CF and keep your options wide open rather than lock
yourself into one single path. :)
Ken
> Isn't the question ... To ASP or JSP?
>
>
I was under the impression that this was a bit of a hack and not really
recommended.
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Gavin Lilley
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From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 March 2001 14:49
To: CF-Talk
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Especially if they live in Trinidad where most IT firms don't even know what
COld Fusion is :)
-Gel
www.carigamer.com
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From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Anyone who relies solely on CF for marketability is in trouble already.
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Andy, FYI, CF5 lets you do the same thing. Specify __DYNAMIC__ as the
DBTYPE, and just pass the connection string to (and ,
and , etc).
--- Ben
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From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 March 2001 14:49
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Andy, FYI, CF5 lets you do the same thing. Specify __DYNAMIC__ a
Isn't the question ... To ASP or JSP?
To design in a non-trival enviroment one would embrace n-tier development.
The question then is in what camp would one reside? MS with ASP presentation
and COM/DCOM business logic or Sun J2EE with EJB/Corba etc.
How will Cold Fusion fair in this environme
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Anyone who relies solely on CF for marketability is in trouble already.
Angél Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
0_0
*lower lip trembles*
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BBbbLASPHEMERRR!!!
Allaire is Forever!
Yh!
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From: Howarth, Craig (IBK-NY) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:32 AM
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Hi, Howarth:
I think ASP and Cf are both technologies, not language...,
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I first developed web apps in ASP but soon
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to say about how good of CF, and I am using CF
now for my job, and of course, JSP is my another hobby...
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From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:17 AM
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Subject: RE: To ASP or not to ASP
>1. ASP is much power
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> From: Zhou, Mei Y (Mei) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:30 AM
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> Subject: RE: To ASP or not to ASP
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> Hi, I think I am in the opposite position as you, I have worked for ASP for
> more than 3
anti-trust verdict aside, there are whisperings of AOL and Sun pushing more
anti-trust action onto Microsoft due to the whole .NET thing...
see http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,22965,00.html
At 09:16 AM 3/21/01 -0500, Nick McClure wrote:
> >1. ASP is much powerful for people w
>1. ASP is much powerful for people who comes from programming background,
>you can have much
>flexibility for customizing your web application, but CF will be more
>friendly for
>people who does not want to do much by themselves instead using tags...,
This is not true, while yes they are tags b
Now after having expercined PHP, Coldfusion, and ASP, all are about the same
in what they can and can not do. Each one has its own advantages, as well
as disadvantages. I personally believe that ASP is not as good as PHP or
Coldfusion because the time it takes to develop a page using ASP is much
I initially used ASP, and had to switch to CF when I changed jobs. I get my
work done faster in CF, and I don't have to define and open objects to
access data from a database. You can also get new people trained faster on
CF than on ASP because they don't need to know VB. CF does not eliminate
One tag makes all the difference..
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From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 March 2001 12:52
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ah but we must remember..if you use a flat head screwdriver on a
phillips cross head screw you
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The best way to look at it is using the right tool fo
0_0
*lower lip trembles*
*eye twitches*
BBbbLASPHEMERRR!!!
Allaire is Forever!
Yh!
*slings crumbs from morning muffin(dipped in coffee)*
-Gel
www.carigamer.com
CF Powered Island Gaming At Its Best!(tm)
;-P
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From: Zhou, Mei Y (Mei) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
1 March 2001 12:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: To ASP or not to ASP
Hi, I think I am in the opposite position as you, I have worked for ASP for
more than 3 years, and now I have to learn ColdFusion. Since I do not know
CF as much as ASP,
what I can say is that:
1. ASP is much powerful for people
Hi, I think I am in the opposite position as you, I have worked for ASP for
more than 3 years, and now I have to learn ColdFusion. Since I do not know
CF as much as ASP,
what I can say is that:
1. ASP is much powerful for people who comes from programming background,
you can have much
flexibilit
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