Aug 2010 03:04:54 +1000
Subject: RE: Number of site using ColdFusion
From: andr...@andyscott.id.au
To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Ben's is not well maintained at all, as I said there are sites that I know
that run in ColdFusion and has done since 2003 and they are not listed on
either
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 03:04:54 +1000
Subject: RE: Number of site using ColdFusion
From: andr...@andyscott.id.au
To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Ben's is not well maintained at all, as I said there are sites that I
To use an analogy, just because trillions of flies eat manure, does
that mean we ought to?
Directors don't care if developers eat shit, once they get the job done quicker
and cheaper.
There's also the quote Nobody ever got fired for using #IndustryLeader#.
Which isn't particularly helpful,
What I really need is a kit from Adobe. The biggest issue with CF is its
reputation. There are too many blogs, etc. out there that say CF is a dying
technology... even though they are false the lies persist. An IT director to
whom we are trying to sell a CF site does his research and finds this
You mean like this one?
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/evangelism_kit/
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Robert Harrison
rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:
What I really need is a kit from Adobe. The biggest issue with CF is its
reputation. There are too many blogs, etc. out there
- Compare capabilities to other technologies
- Illustrate an ROI equal to or superior to other technologies
Page 12 of
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/cf_evangelist_kit.pdf
- Document current use on enterprise level systems (i.e., a reliable
client
list)
Page 4 of
Also try to get hold of the Gartner(?) report.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 26, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.com wrote:
You mean like this one?
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/evangelism_kit/
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Robert Harrison
I'd be quite disappointed if anyone could maintain a list of
coldfusion web sites and have it be even 10% complete.
the metrics of such are not worth anything anyway. If you're trying
to justify the use of Coldfusion, don't bother going with a count like
that.
Ben Forta's list is more suitable
.. if AFLAC and Bank of American think it's good enough...
Here here! +1 for Quality over Quantity.
A couple of sites with name brand recognition worth mentioning
CarFax
http://www.carfax.com
Logitech
http://www.logitech.com
The guy from Logitech is very vocal about his support of support of
That's because that's individual pages.
Adobe (Ben Forta) has a good reference for sites using ColdFusion:
http://www.forta.com/cf/using/
Rey Bango manages GotCFM.com which also has a list of sites using CF:
http://www.gotcfm.com/thelist.cfm
-Original Message-
From: Robert Harrison
If I Google index.cfm and home.cfm the numbers exceed 1 billion.
Of course, you are getting all pages like index.cfm?whatever
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Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 2:53 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Number of site using ColdFusion
That's because that's individual pages.
Adobe (Ben Forta) has a good reference for sites using ColdFusion:
http://www.forta.com/cf/using/
Rey Bango
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From: Andy Matthews [mailto:li...@commadelimited.com]
Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 2:53 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Number of site using ColdFusion
That's because that's individual pages.
Adobe (Ben Forta) has a good reference for sites using ColdFusion:
http
Subject: RE: Number of site using ColdFusion
How well are these lists maintained?
Both do not contain sites that I know without a doubt are written in
ColdFusion, not to mention the first 5 I checked on Rey's randomly are now
written in PHP :-(
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au
.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
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From: Andy Matthews [mailto:li...@commadelimited.com]
Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 3:05 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Number of site using ColdFusion
No clue about the GotCFM list. I'd guess that Ben's list is well
Anyone have a reliable reference to how many sites may are using ColdFusion?
Why do you want one?
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Why do you want one?
To respond to an IT director who thinks ColdFusion is dated and not in much
use anymore...
although this is the same guy that thinks .NET is a programming language.
It seems I keep having to make the 'Why ColdFusion' argument again and
again. Adobe is very good with the
That might be a tough case to make if your client doesn't already have skin
in the game. CF is going to limit them in as many ways as it's going to help
them.
disclaimerI have loved CF for 10 years. I'm happily a full time CFer and
plan to always be./disclaimer
To respond to an IT director who thinks ColdFusion is dated and not in much
use anymore...
Well if he's determined, he'll just return with how many sites run on PHP or
.NET or whatever.
Numbers don't help for CF - what you need to demonstrate is how active and
passionate the community is.
A
http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf
Please read it and decide if this is something that you can use.
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Only reason I can think of is to show the beancounters it's worth
upgrading/maintaining instead of moving to .NET/LAMP, ect.
--Original Message--
From: Peter Boughton
To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
ReplyTo: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: Number of site using ColdFusion
Sent: Aug
I recently interviewed for a contract job with the Human Development Reports
division of the United Nations. They are using ColdFusion. The front end is
HTML, but they use AJAX to hit ColdFusion servers to populate content and data.
Government at many levels uses ColdFusion. (Yes, I know,
http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf
Please read it and decide if this is something that you can use.
I'd love to read it... but Adobe has taken it down.
Robert B. Harrison
Director of Interactive Services
Austin Williams
125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100
Hauppauge NY 11788
P
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Robert Harrison
rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:
I'd love to read it... but Adobe has taken it down.
Google Adobe3112.pdf
http://www.mpeters.de/Adobe3112.pdf
-Cameron
...
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I contract at NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) a large
number of programs here are written in ColdFusion. I also know that the
State Dept, National Institutes of Health, Congress and the Senate uses
ColdFusion.
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Wil Genovese
In addition to the Gartner report, there are these remarks on a Gartner blog:
http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2009/10/06/i-continue-to-be-impressed-with-coldfusion/
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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Robert Harrison
rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:
To respond to an IT director who thinks ColdFusion is dated and not in much
use anymore...
Even tho' it just got a brand new updater for the latest release -
which only came out recently and now incorporates
To respond to an IT director who thinks ColdFusion is dated and not
in much
use anymore...
Well if he's determined, he'll just return with how many sites run on
PHP or .NET or whatever.
To use an analogy, just because trillions of flies eat manure, does that mean
we ought to?
I don't think we could ever get an accurate number of ColdFusion sites or
applications currently running. What I can say with utmost certainty is that
there are over 10k unique organizations worldwide actively using ColdFusion.
At Adobe, we define _active_ as having purchased ColdFusion 8 or 9.
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