I doubt that we're going to upgrade to CF9. The thought of paying $4000 to
Adobe for an upgrade that may or may not fix our problem (and is sure to come
with its own new problems) just turns my stomach. I hate having to upgrade for
bug fixes! I'm going to be looking at Bluedragon and Railo.
Nope. They're on the same physical server and using the same DNS.
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I doubt that we're going to upgrade to CF9. The thought of paying $4000 to
Adobe for an upgrade that may or may not fix our
problem (and is sure to come with its own new problems) just turns my stomach.
Well, I'd definitely recommend that you try the 30-day trial first!
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Miller-Out [mailto:l...@singlebrook.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 1:27 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Serious, intermittent problem with CF Web Service
Nope. They're on the same physical server and using the same DNS
Mark, thanks for your input.
We haven't been able to reproduce the error outside of production, and we can't
reproduce it at will anywhere. We make the same SOAP calls to the service for
days without trouble, then all of sudden it can't find classes that it could
find before.
We're still
On Monday 01 Mar 2010, Leon Miller-Out wrote:
We're still getting the error after updating to the latest Sun 1.4.2 JRE,
Did I miss why you couldn't try a much more recent one ?
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We're still getting the error after updating to the latest Sun 1.4.2 JRE,
Did I miss why you couldn't try a much more recent one ?
He's running CF 7, I think. I don't think you can use a newer JVM with
CF 7 without breaking web services.
I'd recommend trying CF 9 if that's a possibility.
8:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Serious, intermittent problem with CF Web Service
Mark, thanks for your input.
We haven't been able to reproduce the error outside of production, and we
can't reproduce it at will anywhere. We make the same SOAP calls to the
service for days without trouble
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From: Leon Miller-Out [mailto:l...@singlebrook.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:07 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Serious, intermittent problem with CF Web Service
Mark, We encountered the error running with JIT disabled, so JIT is
vindicated
Mark, We encountered the error running with JIT disabled, so JIT is vindicated.
The WSDL shouldn't be changing at all. I haven't tried using a static version,
and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't solve the problem fully. As I noted earlier,
the error sometimes happens when requesting the WSDL and
Thanks for the reply, Dave. See my notes below.
First, can you try this without clustering in place? That is, do you
have a single-server environment you can try?
I'll have to check with a colleague about whether we've seen this in a
non-clustered environment. We use clustering more for
I'll have to check with a colleague about whether we've seen this in a
non-clustered environment. We use clustering more for
stability than for load-balancing. We have gotten Hotspot errors that have
caused CF to crash, and the clustering allows the
service to stay up until we can relaunch
What type of load is this web service receiving? Is this
significantly more load than the server had been receiving before
adding the web service? If the CF server load increased because of
adding the web service you may need to retune the JVM settings. And
if you've never tuned the
Thanks to all who've joined this discussion! Here's an update on where things
stand at the moment.
The service just crapped out for the first time today. One of the cluster
instances was still able to generate the WSDL, while the other instance said:
AXIS error
Sorry, something seems to have
, February 22, 2010 12:23 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Serious, intermittent problem with CF Web Service
Thanks to all who've joined this discussion! Here's an update on where
things stand at the moment.
The service just crapped out for the first time today. One of the cluster
instances was still able
We've been thinking this error happens when the Stub file is regenerated by
JIT right? What about internally with the data that comes back from a
service call ... does it include objects that need defining? In other words
is the error from some additional work done by the WS and NOT from
I think JIT is used all the time, not just after X executions of a certain
piece of code. Anyway, we saw the error running without JIT,
so it's not the guilty party. The WS does refuse to work after the error is
thrown. Some switch gets flipped and CF/Java
presumably can't find a class
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 1:48 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Serious, intermittent problem with CF Web Service
I think JIT
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Leon Miller-Out wrote:
To our great dismay, it appears that our ColdFusion 7 servers can't
serve the new API reliably. It works for about a day or so after
restarting, then the clients start getting errors like:
Error:
Matthew, I'm on Linux, not Windows, so Process Monitor won't help here. I don't
think I'm going be able to figure this out with a Java debugger. That's just
beyond my capabilities.
Does Adobe actually support CF7? We tried to find out and it sounded like
they've outsourced support for it to
Matthew, I'm on Linux, not Windows, so Process Monitor won't help here. I don't
think I'm going be able to figure this out with a Java debugger. That's just
beyond my capabilities.
Does Adobe actually support CF7? We tried to find out and it sounded like
they've outsourced support for it to
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Leon Miller-Out wrote:
There shouldn't be anything in the application that expires. The
applicationTimeout is 1 day, but my understanding is that this just
garbage-collects the application scope if it hasn't been used in a day.
Then there should be no
What type of load is this web service receiving? Is this significantly more
load than the server had been receiving before adding the web service? If the
CF server load increased because of adding the web service you may need to
retune the JVM settings. And if you've never tuned the JVM it
Leon,
Couple of things: Why do you say that upgrading to JRE 1.5 is not possible?
I've seen it done seamlessly and very easily in the past and am hoping it can't
be that difficult even with CF web services involved..
What does your directory where CF creates the web service stubs look like
If I remember right he said he was running CF 7 which means no built in
monitoring and I'm pretty sure that CF 7 does not run on JVM 1.5.
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On Feb 21, 2010,
Does Adobe actually support CF7? We tried to find out and it sounded like
they've outsourced support for it to Fig Leaf Software.
Not exactly. We provide access to CF 7 binaries for people who need
them, but we're not a formal support channel for CF 7.
If there's anyone who thinks they can
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Leon Miller-Out wrote:
To our great dismay, it appears that our ColdFusion 7 servers can't serve the
new API reliably. It works for about a day or so after restarting, then the
clients start getting errors like:
Error:
You can try running Process Monitor
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx) while the
application is in the bad state. Once you reproduce the error, check the log
for the location that the app is trying to load the class and ensure it looks
correct. If you don't see
Howdy, CFers! We've got an incredibly frustrating situation with a CF Web
Services-based API that we wrote and maintain. We had an API in place for years
that was stable and working happily with Ruby, PHP, and ColdFusion clients.
Then this year a .NET client came along, and we found that our
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