Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Harrison
Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration. http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Phillip Vector
The following server-side programming languages are used by less than 0.1% of the websites JavaScript All credibility is lost with that statement. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Dan Baughman
Because you think node.js is more popular? On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: The following server-side programming languages are used by less than 0.1% of the websites JavaScript All credibility is lost with that statement. On Wed, Dec

RE: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Harrison
The following server-side programming languages are used by less than 0.1% of the websites JavaScript All credibility is lost with that statement I don't think so. There are a few people using Javascript on the server. I've actually seen it once. Crazy, but nonetheless it is real.

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Phillip Vector
Please correct me if I am wrong. But doesn't Javascript run Client side? Is there a way to make Javascript run on the server and not on the client? If so, that would solve some issues I've been having. :) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Dan Baughman dan.baugh...@gmail.com wrote: Because you

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Dan Baughman
http://nodejs.org/ On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Please correct me if I am wrong. But doesn't Javascript run Client side? Is there a way to make Javascript run on the server and not on the client? If so, that would solve some issues I've

RE: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Harrison
Yes you can run JS server side. It's rare: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nodejs However, the focus is 1.2% ColdFusion. OMG. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Phillip Vector
I still wouldn't give it credence.. Don't forget, the web is a big place. Allot of the sites visited are probably forums and such (which php is dominant). Any company wanting quality will go for CF or ASP.Net. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Justin Scott
Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration. http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all I'm actually surprised it's as high as it is given their methodology. They claim to look at the top one million (or thereabouts) websites as ranked by Alexa.

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Claude Schnéegans
All credibility is lost with that statement. No, there used to be a server side Javascript language, during the good times of Netscape. This language was a PITA, but it did exist. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Dave Watts
Please correct me if I am wrong. But doesn't Javascript run Client side? Is there a way to make Javascript run on the server and not on the client? If so, that would solve some issues I've been having. :) JavaScript can run anywhere there's a JavaScript interpreter. In the context of a CF web

RE: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Harrison
ColdFusion has a huge market behind the firewall in corporate and government intranets and other places that these kinds of surveys can't report on That may be true. Does anyone know of solid statistics on CF market share of CMS driven sites. Any stats that look more promising than this?

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread John M Bliss
Any stats that look more promising than this? http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/adobecoldfusionevangelismkit.pdf On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: ColdFusion has a huge market behind the firewall in corporate and government

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Wil Genovese
Plus, many sites don't even have a way to show that ColdFusion (or any other language) is being used. Politico for example is a HUGE ColdFusion powered site that generates dynamic content with CF and builds HTML files. The United Nations websites does the same with ColdFusion. There are a

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Kelly Matthews
Yep several sites I rebuilt I use HTML files to process CF as well so they wouldn't lose their search engine positions etc. Kelly Matthews Sr. Web Developer CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Wil Genovese wrote: Plus, many sites don't even have a way to show that

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration. This is but a grain of sand on the beach of web development. Look at the beach, not the individual grains of sand. -Cameron -- Cameron

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: This is but a grain of sand on the beach of web development. Look at the beach, not the individual grains of sand. Exactly. Almost 150,000,000 active websites on the interwebs. I've yet to run out of ColdFusion

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Raymond Camden
*checks watch* Yep, about time for another CF is dead thread. *goes back to work* On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Casey Dougall ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: This is but a grain of sand on the beach of web

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Judah McAuley
Hey, I just heard Ray say that CF is dead! OMG, it must be true, spread the word!!! On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: *checks watch* Yep, about time for another CF is dead thread. *goes back to work*

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.comwrote: Hey, I just heard Ray say that CF is dead! OMG, it must be true, spread the word!!! Adobe could at least include it in the drop down menu ;-) ~|

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Russ Michaels
hacking up wordpress, Joomla and drupal sites is really all you need in the PHP world though, these apps do almost everything most folks need, why pay $thousands to build something from scratch if you can get the same result from an off the shelf open source app in a few hours, even if

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Mandel
So, what are you going to do to promote ColdFusion more? No point in complaining about the problem, unless you are going to propose and implement some solutions :) Mark On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: Very disappointing statistics for

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Roger Austin
On 12/14/2011 12:39 PM, Raymond Camden wrote: *checks watch* Yep, about time for another CF is dead thread. *goes back to work* OMG Adobe has made Ray the PR guy since he was the noob. OMG CF is doomed. :) -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/a4/60 Twitter:

Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Amen Mark! as I tell my staff.come to me with solutionsnot problems On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 09:34 +1100, Mark Mandel wrote: So, what are you going to do to promote ColdFusion more? No point in complaining about the problem, unless you are going to propose and implement some