9.01 updater - the nightmare relived

2011-03-25 Thread Dan Baughman

Hi List,

I recall back when I installed 9.01 - its basically like playing russian
roullette with your server with the possible outcome being that you have to
reinstall your entire ColdFusion setup.

Its this error (and some of its variants) that start occuring on every CFM
file:
The tag handler application does not have a setter for the attribute
datasource specified in the Tag Library Descriptor.

Does anyone have the final solution/fix for this?  Why  hasn't adobe fixed
this god awful patch?

I have a live site down any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks
Dan


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Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived

2011-03-25 Thread James Holmes

On 25 March 2011 23:48, Dan Baughman dan.baugh...@gmail.com wrote:
 The tag handler application does not have a setter for the attribute
 datasource specified in the Tag Library Descriptor.

 Does anyone have the final solution/fix for this?

http://www.getrailo.org/

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Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived

2011-03-25 Thread Russ Michaels

FYI, if you are on windows, before updating CF, just take a copy of the
ColdFusion installation folder and the CFIDE. If things go tits up, just
shut down services and restore the folders, you don't usually need to
re-install CF from scratch.


I don't use Linux, but I suspect the same is true.

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Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived

2011-03-25 Thread Dan Baughman

Thanks,

I actually stopped everything (cf,iis) then just restored a copy of the
coldfusion directory pre-update and it re-started everything.

Dan

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:


 FYI, if you are on windows, before updating CF, just take a copy of the
 ColdFusion installation folder and the CFIDE. If things go tits up, just
 shut down services and restore the folders, you don't usually need to
 re-install CF from scratch.


 I don't use Linux, but I suspect the same is true.

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Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived

2011-03-25 Thread Dave Watts

 I recall back when I installed 9.01 - its basically like playing russian
 roullette with your server with the possible outcome being that you have to
 reinstall your entire ColdFusion setup.

No, this is not really the case. You don't need to reinstall your
entire CF setup.

 Its this error (and some of its variants) that start occuring on every CFM
 file:
 The tag handler application does not have a setter for the attribute
 datasource specified in the Tag Library Descriptor.

Did you clear your cfclasses cache after installing the update? You
really should do that any time you install an update.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived

2011-03-25 Thread Dan Baughman

Why doesn't the updater do that then? I've never heard of that before.

I guess I must be living under a rock because I've upgraded many, many
servers starting from coldfusion 6 up through 9.01 and NEVER had to clear
any class-cache - nor I have heard this mentioned by anyone as a solution
for this problem.

If this patch introduces a new requirement of clearing the class cache, it
should be mentioned in the docs or the patch should do it automatically.

Just saying thats a piss-poor patch.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  I recall back when I installed 9.01 - its basically like playing russian
  roullette with your server with the possible outcome being that you have
 to
  reinstall your entire ColdFusion setup.

 No, this is not really the case. You don't need to reinstall your
 entire CF setup.

  Its this error (and some of its variants) that start occuring on every
 CFM
  file:
  The tag handler application does not have a setter for the attribute
  datasource specified in the Tag Library Descriptor.

 Did you clear your cfclasses cache after installing the update? You
 really should do that any time you install an update.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
 instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

 

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Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived

2011-03-25 Thread Russ Michaels

the cfclasses folder can cause a whole host of issues. I rarely remember it
though myself.
remember that all those files in there are compiled already with the
previous version of CF, and when CF starts it loads them all into memory.
If you have  A LOT of files then this can cause CF to takes ages to start.
If there is anything in those files that has changed with the new update,
then they need to be re-compiled to pickup those changes, or they may simply
not run properly or may cause errors.
deleting everything in the cfclasses folder will cause all those files to be
re-compiled.

I am actually experimenting with having the saving of class files disabled,
as the only benefit really is that they get loaded to memory at startup and
thus do not need to be compiled again. The result is very slow startup
sometimes. By disabling this setting it just means each files has to be
compiled once the first time it runs, then it is in memory just the same. I
personally think the latter is more beneficial.


On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Dan Baughman dan.baugh...@gmail.comwrote:


 Why doesn't the updater do that then? I've never heard of that before.

 I guess I must be living under a rock because I've upgraded many, many
 servers starting from coldfusion 6 up through 9.01 and NEVER had to clear
 any class-cache - nor I have heard this mentioned by anyone as a solution
 for this problem.

 If this patch introduces a new requirement of clearing the class cache, it
 should be mentioned in the docs or the patch should do it automatically.

 Just saying thats a piss-poor patch.

 On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:

 
   I recall back when I installed 9.01 - its basically like playing
 russian
   roullette with your server with the possible outcome being that you
 have
  to
   reinstall your entire ColdFusion setup.
 
  No, this is not really the case. You don't need to reinstall your
  entire CF setup.
 
   Its this error (and some of its variants) that start occuring on every
  CFM
   file:
   The tag handler application does not have a setter for the attribute
   datasource specified in the Tag Library Descriptor.
 
  Did you clear your cfclasses cache after installing the update? You
  really should do that any time you install an update.
 
  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
  http://www.figleaf.com/
  http://training.figleaf.com/
 
  Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
  GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
  instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
 
 

 

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Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived

2011-03-25 Thread Dave Watts

 Why doesn't the updater do that then? I've never heard of that before.
 I guess I must be living under a rock because I've upgraded many, many
 servers starting from coldfusion 6 up through 9.01 and NEVER had to clear
 any class-cache - nor I have heard this mentioned by anyone as a solution
 for this problem.
 If this patch introduces a new requirement of clearing the class cache, it
 should be mentioned in the docs or the patch should do it automatically.
 Just saying thats a piss-poor patch.

I'm pretty sure the release notes for patches often recommend this.
But in any case, this is a common issue with patches. I've run into
problems with compiled files more than once.

In many (most?) cases, I'd recommend not storing compiled classes to
disk anyway.

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Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived

2011-03-25 Thread Dan Baughman

Yea trusted cache?? and the setting int he cf admin that says something
about storing class between restarts... I dont employ either setting - not
the culprit here..

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  Why doesn't the updater do that then? I've never heard of that before.
  I guess I must be living under a rock because I've upgraded many, many
  servers starting from coldfusion 6 up through 9.01 and NEVER had to clear
  any class-cache - nor I have heard this mentioned by anyone as a solution
  for this problem.
  If this patch introduces a new requirement of clearing the class cache,
 it
  should be mentioned in the docs or the patch should do it automatically.
  Just saying thats a piss-poor patch.

 I'm pretty sure the release notes for patches often recommend this.
 But in any case, this is a common issue with patches. I've run into
 problems with compiled files more than once.

 In many (most?) cases, I'd recommend not storing compiled classes to
 disk anyway.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived

2011-03-25 Thread Dave Watts

 Yea trusted cache?? and the setting int he cf admin that says something
 about storing class between restarts... I dont employ either setting - not
 the culprit here..

Just to make sure, you might want to check your cfclasses directory
and delete anything within it:
c:\coldfusion9\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cfclasses

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