Re: Flash Player 8+ requirement for an App
On Monday 11 December 2006 21:14, OÄuz Demirkapı wrote: their clients issues to update Flash Player. They have some important clients which do not have any rights to update any software on their computers as policy and they can not update into the current Flash Player and this is a big issue for us now. Now is a time for them to engage then. Play the 'flash 9 is more secure' card if you have to. At the end of the day, if they really like the app, they'll update. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to authoritatively orchestrate seamless deliverables This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263693 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flash Player 8+ requirement for an App
O?uz Demirkap? wrote: If you have an application which requires Flash 8+ to run but your client`s clients could not update their Flash player because of lack of knowledge or without having required rights. What would you suggest to your client? Send him 2 quotes, one for the application using Flash 8, one for the application using a custom workaround to work without Flash 8. Jochem ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263696 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Flash Player 8+ requirement for an App
OÃuz Demirkapı wrote: If you have an application which requires Flash 8+ to run but your client`s clients could not update their Flash player because of lack of knowledge or without having required rights. Or if you have a Flex2 application which requires Flash Player 9+ with same situation. What would you suggest to your client? For How can I get Adobe Flash Player deployed to an intranet? then there's an intranet kit available: http://www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution/ For Is the general public able to upgrade their Players? then yes, they are, at the rate of well over five million a day, making it the most rapidly-adopted software in history. http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html For How can I persuade my client that it's okay to specify Adobe Flash Player 9? then the most effective technique seems to be to work to first discover what their actual objections are. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263616 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Flash Player 8+ requirement for an App
Thanks John, This is not direct client issue. When we target only a specific Intranet etc., we can educate the client. They have an application which is public. We are using a solution with Flash FileIO feature and there is a requirement for Flash Player 8+. But our client is curious about their clients issues to update Flash Player. They have some important clients which do not have any rights to update any software on their computers as policy and they can not update into the current Flash Player and this is a big issue for us now. I am just trying to figure out a reasonable explanation. :) John Dowdell wrote: OÃuz Demirkapı wrote: If you have an application which requires Flash 8+ to run but your client`s clients could not update their Flash player because of lack of knowledge or without having required rights. Or if you have a Flex2 application which requires Flash Player 9+ with same situation. What would you suggest to your client? For How can I get Adobe Flash Player deployed to an intranet? then there's an intranet kit available: http://www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution/ For Is the general public able to upgrade their Players? then yes, they are, at the rate of well over five million a day, making it the most rapidly-adopted software in history. http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html For How can I persuade my client that it's okay to specify Adobe Flash Player 9? then the most effective technique seems to be to work to first discover what their actual objections are. jd ~~~ OÄuz Demirkapı TeraTech Inc. | Senior Developer 405 East Gude Dr Suite 207, Rockville, MD 20850, USA Voice: +1 (301) 424-3903 ext 111 | Fax: +1 (301) 762-8185 Web: http://www.teratech.com | E-mail: oguz.demirkapi AT teratech.com Winner in CFDJ awards Best Consulting. Member Team Fusebox. ~~~ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263625 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Flash Player 8+ requirement for an App
FYI there are corporate clients (I can think of a very large university) who administratively prevent users from downloading updated components of anything. This client in question is stuck on v7, so none of my flash v8 will play. -Original Message- From: John Dowdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 4:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Player 8+ requirement for an App OÃuz Demirkapı wrote: If you have an application which requires Flash 8+ to run but your client`s clients could not update their Flash player because of lack of knowledge or without having required rights. Or if you have a Flex2 application which requires Flash Player 9+ with same situation. What would you suggest to your client? For How can I get Adobe Flash Player deployed to an intranet? then there's an intranet kit available: http://www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution/ For Is the general public able to upgrade their Players? then yes, they are, at the rate of well over five million a day, making it the most rapidly-adopted software in history. http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration. html For How can I persuade my client that it's okay to specify Adobe Flash Player 9? then the most effective technique seems to be to work to first discover what their actual objections are. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263627 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Flash Player 8+ requirement for an App
I work in one of those enviroments. Luckily, since I am a developer, I can get around that. Sometimes. About the only thing you can really do is to tell the client that the options/features they want are only available in Flash 8+ and that their customers will have to get their IT team to update them. On 12/11/06, Mark Leder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI there are corporate clients (I can think of a very large university) who administratively prevent users from downloading updated components of anything. This client in question is stuck on v7, so none of my flash v8 will play. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263631 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
