Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Robin Hilliard
On 24/03/2010, at 9:05 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: > Steve / Mark, > > First of all this was not an entire dig at you guys, the point is that there > are very few Melbourne UG’s each year. That can be a downer to most, because > it can come across as why would I bother to turn up to something that

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Robin Hilliard
On 24/03/2010, at 4:48 PM, Mike Kear wrote: > Oh so it's turned into a Rocketboots commercial message instead then? Well that's a classic Mike line* :-) I would share it with our accounts department but it would take so long to explain to them how anyone could think that hosting, reimbursing ex

RE: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Andrew Scott
bject: RE: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient Ok my turn We actually had quite a few meetings last year, and even if we did only have 3 meetings, they are all well broadcasted and plenty of notification is given so you couldn't e

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Mike Kear
Andrew, please dont make this worse than it already is. I asked a simple question, that Mark Mandel thought was a sideswipe at Robin, but was never intended that way, and now its turned into a huge "Mike Kear bashed Adobe" mess. I wasnt criticising anyone, just asking a question that came out lik

RE: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Steve Onnis
ussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: I only have one thing to say, as the message that seems to be drummed into us. Is that we should get involved in our UG, well what if that

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Mandel
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: > I only have one thing to say, as the message that seems to be drummed into > us. Is that we should get involved in our UG, well what if that user group > meets like 3 times a year? > Then offer to take over the UG and do a better job. The ch

RE: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Andrew Scott
to support the product. -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kear Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2010 7:15 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the I

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Mike Kear
No, Toby. I rarely post on CF-Aussie on anything other than technical matters. Because that's what the list is for. Mark Mandell is confused about that too - he quoted me apparently on this list, but the list he's quoting is the CF-TALK list. I have been involved in two threads (meaning multip

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Mike Kear
As to "regularly" complaining about the state of affairs of CF - i have started one thread lamenting the lack of activity on Adobe's part in selling ColdFusion about a year or so ago, and I joined a discussion along with many others about 5 years ago. Apart from that, despite some people's impre

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Mandel
Mike, Everything I just said, you have publicly stated. For example: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:60733 "Anyway, these are the reasons i think the trends tell me ColdFusion is either a dead duck of soon to be a dead duck at least in Sydney anyway." "[A] there

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Toby Tremayne
Actually Mike everything he's referred to you have air regularly and often on this mailing list... Toby On 24/03/2010, at 6:53 PM, Mike Kear wrote: I dont think its appropriate for you to bring private conversations i have had with you into the public domain like this In fact i am very annoy

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Mike Kear
I dont think its appropriate for you to bring private conversations i have had with you into the public domain like this In fact i am very annoyed that you have done that. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com Co

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Paul Kukiel
I was also there and thought the concept was really great and even if things are pure alpha I think it's totaly worh while and I'm always walking away with new ideas. Robin is a great presenter and worth comming to a CFUG for. Paul Kukiel On 24/03/2010, at 5:00 PM, Mark Mandel wrote: H

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-23 Thread Mark Mandel
Mike, As someone who regularly complains about the state of affairs in the CF community, and how hard it is to find work, I would have though that you would be at every CFUG in an attempt to help bolster the community, network with people, and learn something new that may, one day, help you out on

RE: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-23 Thread Dale Fraser
: Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient Sorry Mark, you read too much into it. I just asked a question with no implied meaning at all. However if Galaxy is 'alpha alpha alpha' as someone said on another thread, I have to wonder about the wi

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-23 Thread Mike Kear
Sorry Mark, you read too much into it. I just asked a question with no implied meaning at all. However if Galaxy is 'alpha alpha alpha' as someone said on another thread, I have to wonder about the wisdom (for me) of spending that much time to hear about something that I wouldn't use in a fit.

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-23 Thread Mark Mandel
Having attended Robin's Galaxy presentation here in Melbourne, I can honestly say it's far from a 'commerical message'. You're pretty off base there, and I'm not sure how you got there. It's a really interesting presentation on how you can really toy with ColdFusion's application architecture to g

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-23 Thread Mike Kear
Oh so it's turned into a Rocketboots commercial message instead then? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:24 AM,

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-23 Thread Robin Hilliard
On 23/03/2010, at 3:56 PM, Chris Velevitch wrote: > ColdFusion Application Architecture for the Impatient by Robin Hilliard > > Bare-bones Model View Controller and Service Oriented Architecture > techniques with ColdFusion, no framework and a bit of attitude. Join > Robin Hilliard in his contin

[cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-22 Thread Chris Velevitch
Note: change of topics due the CFBuilder launch (date change) Tuesday 30th March at 6:00pm for 6:30 start Coldfusion Builder Launch Event Coldfusion Builder has been officially launched and a short overview of Coldfusion Builder will be given. ColdFusion Application Architecture for the Impati