[cfaussie] Re: 2007 National User Group Meeting

2007-02-22 Thread Geoff Bowers

Robin Hilliard wrote:
 This is a quick message to announce the 2007 National Adobe User
 Group meeting on Wednesday 21 February at the Sydney Hilton (WebDU
 venue - note non-conference attendees are most welcome to attend),
 6:30 for 7:00pm.  The speakers include two Adobe visitors from the

Whoops.. that would be next month :)
Wednesday 21 *March* 2007 at the Sydney Hilton

Thanks for organising this!

-- geoff
http://www.webdu.com.au/


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[cfaussie] Free webDU tickets

2007-02-22 Thread Geoff Bowers

Folks,

As part of various promotional efforts we're giving away a bunch of
webDU tickets.  If you are hanging out to go but can't afford a ticket
for whatever reason.. you might throw your hat in the ring for one of
these freebies.

webJam (1)
http://www.webjam.com.au/
Lucky door prize is a webDU ticket -- just turn up, you never know
your luck in a big city.

Developer Magazine (5)
http://www.developer.net.au/Calendar_of_Events_March_2007_Onwards.htm
Hmm... almost impossible to find this competition on their site, so
looks like your chances just went up 1,000 fold.

Builder AU (5)
http://www.builderau.com.au/blogs/betaliving/viewblogpost.htm?p=339270762
Another competition -- but Builder have their act together and a lot
of people will likely see this competition.  Still nothing ventured
nothing gained.

Good luck!

-- geoff
http://www.webdu.com.au/


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[cfaussie] session only cookies with the cfapplication tag

2007-02-22 Thread duncan . loxton

I cant work out why I never came across this before but can someone
answer this for me? Apologies for asking an age old question thats
probably been asked a million times.

This tag makes a user use a file based cookie, this means that logging
in to one site in one browser window will result in the same sesison
in a completely new instance of the browser.

cfapplication Name=#cgi.http_host#46
   ClientManagement=Yes
   SessionManagement=Yes
   SetClientCookies=Yes
   sessiontimeout=#CreateTimeSpan(0,2,0,0)#
   ApplicationTimeout=#CreateTimeSpan(0,2,0,0)#
   

The following combination of cfapplication and cfcookie makes an in
memory cookie. this means you can log in to site x in 2 different
browsers with 2 different logins and maintain 2 different sessions on
the same site.

cfapplication Name=#cgi.http_host#46
   ClientManagement=Yes
   SessionManagement=Yes

   sessiontimeout=#CreateTimeSpan(0,2,0,0)#
   ApplicationTimeout=#CreateTimeSpan(0,2,0,0)#
   ClientStorage=red5_client_vars

cfcookie name=cfid value=#Client.cfid#
cfcookie name=cftoken value=#Client.cftoken#

Firstly - whats the protocol as far as security here? Whats the
general consensus - do y'all do the former or the latter? Does it
depend on the application?
Secondly - this has obvious testing advantages - i.e. being able to
log in as 2 different user levels on the same site and flick to make
sure things behave right.
Thirdly - Can you do session only cookies without using the separate
cfcookie tag?

Thanks all!


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[cfaussie] Re: session only cookies with the cfapplication tag

2007-02-22 Thread Barry Beattie

 Secondly - this has obvious testing advantages - i.e. being able to
 log in as 2 different user levels on the same site and flick to make
 sure things behave right.

another way of course is to use 2 different browsers: IE for level 1
and FF for level 2.

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[cfaussie] Re: Firefox Javascript problem

2007-02-22 Thread Steve Onnis
Confirm is a reserved word. Maybe try another word.

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 Got a problem populating a form in firefox from a page that opened the
form.  The below code works in IE but not Firefox.  Any ideas.

Function loadValues() {
 document.confirm.points.value = opener.order.mempoints.value;
}



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[cfaussie] Re: Firefox Javascript problem

2007-02-22 Thread KNOTT, Brian
I'm not actally using confirm.  The actual code is confirmForm, I was
just to lazy to type it all out.

Brian Knott
BI Analyst Developer - BI Service Delivery 
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 Confirm is a reserved word. Maybe try another word.
 
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  Got a problem populating a form in firefox from a page that opened
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[cfaussie] Re: CF and .NET (Followup).

2007-02-22 Thread Darren Tracey

Scott

As our local Microsoft rep, I was wondering if you could provide a
list of all the online mailing list and discussion forums for .net
developers?
I've got a whole bunch of links for online ColdFusion training modules
and I thought I could post them to all the .Net forums, because I hear
there's a glut of .Net developers and they could probably all benefit
from the many high paying CF job vacancies that CF businesses are
having trouble filling at the moment.
It would be a great benefit for our poor .net cousins. A real win-win
synergistic opportunity!
I'm sure you'll be happy to help these people out.

Darren

On Feb 23, 10:14 am, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,

 As per my previous thread regarding how Microsoft coul compliment the
 CF piece of the equation, i'm happy to report that we have a win or
 two happening in this space.

 If you flick your browsers tohttp://www.learn2asp.net/cf/Campaign.aspxyou'll 
 see there is a whole
 bunch of goodness awaiting you starting Monday on how to add ASP.NET
 to your skillset.

 Given that these days at times there is a lot of ASP.NET work on this
 may be of relevance.

 This message will DrWatson in 30secs.

 Scott.
 Microsoft.


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[cfaussie] RE: Firefox Javascript problem

2007-02-22 Thread Ryan Sabir

Are they in the same domain? It could be a cross site scripting issue?

Also, I think 'function' needs to be lower case… but that’s probably just a 
feature of your email program.

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 Got a problem populating a form in firefox from a page that opened the form.  
The below code works in IE but not Firefox.  Any ideas.

Function loadValues() {
 document.confirm.points.value = opener.order.mempoints.value;
}



 Brian Knott


 
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[cfaussie] Re: CF and .NET (Followup).

2007-02-22 Thread Mark Stanton

Hmm time to get me some popcorn and settle in for a few hours of
quality entertainment.

On 2/23/07, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Scott

 As our local Microsoft rep, I was wondering if you could provide a
 list of all the online mailing list and discussion forums for .net
 developers?
 I've got a whole bunch of links for online ColdFusion training modules
 and I thought I could post them to all the .Net forums, because I hear
 there's a glut of .Net developers and they could probably all benefit
 from the many high paying CF job vacancies that CF businesses are
 having trouble filling at the moment.
 It would be a great benefit for our poor .net cousins. A real win-win
 synergistic opportunity!
 I'm sure you'll be happy to help these people out.

 Darren

 On Feb 23, 10:14 am, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  As per my previous thread regarding how Microsoft coul compliment the
  CF piece of the equation, i'm happy to report that we have a win or
  two happening in this space.
 
  If you flick your browsers 
  tohttp://www.learn2asp.net/cf/Campaign.aspxyou'll see there is a whole
  bunch of goodness awaiting you starting Monday on how to add ASP.NET
  to your skillset.
 
  Given that these days at times there is a lot of ASP.NET work on this
  may be of relevance.
 
  This message will DrWatson in 30secs.
 
  Scott.
  Microsoft.


 



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[cfaussie] Re: CF and .NET (Followup).

2007-02-22 Thread Scott Barnes

You're a funny man Darren ;)

On 2/23/07, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Scott

 As our local Microsoft rep, I was wondering if you could provide a
 list of all the online mailing list and discussion forums for .net
 developers?
 I've got a whole bunch of links for online ColdFusion training modules
 and I thought I could post them to all the .Net forums, because I hear
 there's a glut of .Net developers and they could probably all benefit
 from the many high paying CF job vacancies that CF businesses are
 having trouble filling at the moment.
 It would be a great benefit for our poor .net cousins. A real win-win
 synergistic opportunity!
 I'm sure you'll be happy to help these people out.

 Darren

 On Feb 23, 10:14 am, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  As per my previous thread regarding how Microsoft coul compliment the
  CF piece of the equation, i'm happy to report that we have a win or
  two happening in this space.
 
  If you flick your browsers 
  tohttp://www.learn2asp.net/cf/Campaign.aspxyou'll see there is a whole
  bunch of goodness awaiting you starting Monday on how to add ASP.NET
  to your skillset.
 
  Given that these days at times there is a lot of ASP.NET work on this
  may be of relevance.
 
  This message will DrWatson in 30secs.
 
  Scott.
  Microsoft.


 



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[cfaussie] Re: Firefox Javascript problem

2007-02-22 Thread Andrew Bateman

Try using document.forms[yourFormname].confirmForm.value  or
document.getElementById(yourFormId).value instead. I am pretty sure
that document.[objectname] is bad joo-joo for many browsers.


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[cfaussie] Re: Firefox Javascript problem

2007-02-22 Thread Andrew Scott
Brian,

Have you looke at Firebug? If you haven't change your channel to
www.getfirebug.com and I tell you this, you will wonder how you ever lived
without it.



On 2/23/07, Andrew Bateman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Try using document.forms[yourFormname].confirmForm.value  or
 document.getElementById(yourFormId).value instead. I am pretty sure
 that document.[objectname] is bad joo-joo for many browsers.


 



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[cfaussie] Re: CF and .NET (Followup).

2007-02-22 Thread Andrew Scott
Scott,

we have a watercooler for that now. And while I walk on over to it, I would
prefer to look at CF stuff on this list and not spam for another competitor.

Oh Scott, I guess you could join us all at the watercooler rather than place
OT shit in here:-)



On 2/23/07, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 You're a funny man Darren ;)

 On 2/23/07, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Scott
 
  As our local Microsoft rep, I was wondering if you could provide a
  list of all the online mailing list and discussion forums for .net
  developers?
  I've got a whole bunch of links for online ColdFusion training modules
  and I thought I could post them to all the .Net forums, because I hear
  there's a glut of .Net developers and they could probably all benefit
  from the many high paying CF job vacancies that CF businesses are
  having trouble filling at the moment.
  It would be a great benefit for our poor .net cousins. A real win-win
  synergistic opportunity!
  I'm sure you'll be happy to help these people out.
 
  Darren
 
  On Feb 23, 10:14 am, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   As per my previous thread regarding how Microsoft coul compliment the
   CF piece of the equation, i'm happy to report that we have a win or
   two happening in this space.
  
   If you flick your browsers
 tohttp://www.learn2asp.net/cf/Campaign.aspxyou'll see there is a whole
   bunch of goodness awaiting you starting Monday on how to add ASP.NET
   to your skillset.
  
   Given that these days at times there is a lot of ASP.NET work on this
   may be of relevance.
  
   This message will DrWatson in 30secs.
  
   Scott.
   Microsoft.
 
 
  
 


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[cfaussie] Re: CF and .NET (Followup).

2007-02-22 Thread Darren Tracey

Don't you think I shouldn't do that then?
Do you think maybe that wouldn't be the right place to put a whole
bunch of ColdFusion tutorial information?
The first few articles would be CF - .Net comparisons, so surely that
makes it highly relevant to the .Net audience.
Did I suggest doing something wrong?

Darren

On Feb 23, 10:45 am, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You're a funny man Darren ;)

 On 2/23/07, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







  Scott

  As our local Microsoft rep, I was wondering if you could provide a
  list of all the online mailing list and discussion forums for .net
  developers?
  I've got a whole bunch of links for online ColdFusion training modules
  and I thought I could post them to all the .Net forums, because I hear
  there's a glut of .Net developers and they could probably all benefit
  from the many high paying CF job vacancies that CF businesses are
  having trouble filling at the moment.
  It would be a great benefit for our poor .net cousins. A real win-win
  synergistic opportunity!
  I'm sure you'll be happy to help these people out.

  Darren

  On Feb 23, 10:14 am, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi All,

   As per my previous thread regarding how Microsoft coul compliment the
   CF piece of the equation, i'm happy to report that we have a win or
   two happening in this space.

   If you flick your browsers 
   tohttp://www.learn2asp.net/cf/Campaign.aspxyou'llsee there is a whole
   bunch of goodness awaiting you starting Monday on how to add ASP.NET
   to your skillset.

   Given that these days at times there is a lot of ASP.NET work on this
   may be of relevance.

   This message will DrWatson in 30secs.

   Scott.
   Microsoft.

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[cfaussie] Re: CF and .NET (Followup).

2007-02-22 Thread Scott Barnes

Darren,

What I think and you do is two seperate issues, its your call on what
your reasoning and wants are going forward.

You have a browser, I'm sure you can find your way around
Google/Live.com so whatever blows your hair back go for it. I'll help
you in anyway I can but to be honest, i'm not quite sure what you're
objectives here are? (If you were say an Adobe Coldfusion Evangelist /
Sales Team - I can see it, but yeah your call on going forward)

I mentioned this here inside a Coldfusion list as it is on topic given
that Blue Dragon is used in the CF Community and especially now that
Coldfusion 8 will support .NET via createObject().

eg:
In this first of two webcasts, we introduce you to BlueDragon for the
Microsoft .NET Framework and explain why .NET is an ideal platform for
ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML), even if you do not change any code
to take advantage of the integration with .NET. We also show you the
enterprise-class integration possibilities that are enabled, like
sharing scopes between CFML and .NET, calling .NET objects from CFML
using CFOBJECT, calling ColdFusion Components (CFCs) from Microsoft
ASP.NET pages, and much more. Learn what BlueDragon is, why it exists,
and how the benefits of its compatibility can serve your organization.
Join us to hear about high-traffic Web sites that are moving to
BlueDragon for the.NET Framework and the other top organizations that
have already made the transition

Given that you folks at Suncorp for instance have .NET in-house you
could have more of an interop discussion (while still respecting each
others patches).

Now if we/you want to play the whole MSFT is Selling card again, go
for it, but count me out this time ;)



On 2/23/07, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Don't you think I shouldn't do that then?
 Do you think maybe that wouldn't be the right place to put a whole
 bunch of ColdFusion tutorial information?
 The first few articles would be CF - .Net comparisons, so surely that
 makes it highly relevant to the .Net audience.
 Did I suggest doing something wrong?

 Darren

 On Feb 23, 10:45 am, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You're a funny man Darren ;)
 
  On 2/23/07, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Scott
 
   As our local Microsoft rep, I was wondering if you could provide a
   list of all the online mailing list and discussion forums for .net
   developers?
   I've got a whole bunch of links for online ColdFusion training modules
   and I thought I could post them to all the .Net forums, because I hear
   there's a glut of .Net developers and they could probably all benefit
   from the many high paying CF job vacancies that CF businesses are
   having trouble filling at the moment.
   It would be a great benefit for our poor .net cousins. A real win-win
   synergistic opportunity!
   I'm sure you'll be happy to help these people out.
 
   Darren
 
   On Feb 23, 10:14 am, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
 
As per my previous thread regarding how Microsoft coul compliment the
CF piece of the equation, i'm happy to report that we have a win or
two happening in this space.
 
If you flick your browsers 
tohttp://www.learn2asp.net/cf/Campaign.aspxyou'llsee there is a whole
bunch of goodness awaiting you starting Monday on how to add ASP.NET
to your skillset.
 
Given that these days at times there is a lot of ASP.NET work on this
may be of relevance.
 
This message will DrWatson in 30secs.
 
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[cfaussie] Re: Firefox Javascript problem

2007-02-22 Thread KNOTT, Brian
Problem was the firefox needs document infrount of the form name so
 
window.opener.document.form.field.value works
window.opener.form.field.value does not work.
 

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Brian,
 
Have you looke at Firebug? If you haven't change your channel to
www.getfirebug.com and I tell you this, you will wonder how you ever
lived without it.


 
On 2/23/07, Andrew Bateman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


Try using document.forms[yourFormname].confirmForm.value  or
document.getElementById(yourFormId).value instead. I am pretty
sure 
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[cfaussie] Re: CF and .NET (Followup).

2007-02-22 Thread Scott Barnes


 Hm, perhaps it's the learn2asp.net and Campaign in the url that
 suggested to some people that this was a selling kinda thing...

Yeah, I probably should of put more of a context behind it - ie CF +
.NET interop - was more the point. Chalk that up to a lesson learnt ;)

It is a campaign though, but the sales pitch is View the lab, and get
free schwag something i've been asked over and over again from folks
on this list (mostly inperson).. so i can't win either way :)

 Might I suggest http://billsdevlounge.org/
 charliesexcellentbdstuff.cfm? :-)

I tried that URL but it kept pointing me to RocketbootsFlexInfomercials.com :)


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[cfaussie] Re: Firefox Javascript problem

2007-02-22 Thread Andrew Scott
LOL,

Well I guess you not interested in FB giving you the answer then:-) That's
what firebug is there for, oh well. I'll move on then.


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  Problem was the firefox needs document infrount of the form name so

 window.opener.document.form.field.value works
 window.opener.form.field.value does not work.


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  Brian,

 Have you looke at Firebug? If you haven't change your channel to
 www.getfirebug.com and I tell you this, you will wonder how you ever lived
 without it.



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[cfaussie] Fusebox question

2007-02-22 Thread Ryan Sabir
Hey all,
 
I think there's some fundamental thing I'm missing with building an MVC app in 
Fusebox.
 
I have a fuse in my 'model' that runs a query to get details of an event. Say 
the query is named 'qGetEvent'.
 
When I'm outputing the data for that query, in a 'view' fuse, I'm referring to 
that query object, as in 'qGetEvent.eventDate'.
 
This seems to me to be breaking the whole modularity of my solution, as the 
view is expecting a query object named 'qGetEvent', in order to display its 
data. I feel like I've missed something fundamental in the Fusebox docs that 
will explain to me how to pass that query object down the line as a generic 
object, ratehr than a specifically named variable.
 
Whats the trick?
 
 
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[cfaussie] Re: Fusebox question

2007-02-22 Thread Scott Barnes
Well yeah, typically the View is supposed to - design pattern wise - ask the
controller for that information or in a more perfect world, the controller
tells the view (view abstraction).

Controller is the context to both pieces but in Fusebox and Mach-II you can
get away with mutating the view to becoming 2-parts Controller and 1-part
View.

In FLEX / AJAX you could create a controller that takes behaviourless view
and decorate it / inject it with behaviours via the Controller (similiar to
View Helper Pattern).

Overall Coldfusion isn't 100% clean OOP so go with the flow ;) heh.

http://www.halhelms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=newsletters.showissue=032005_domainmodels

That was a good article on Fusebox + Mach-II and MVC.




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  Hey all,

 I think there's some fundamental thing I'm missing with building an MVC
 app in Fusebox.

 I have a fuse in my 'model' that runs a query to get details of an event.
 Say the query is named 'qGetEvent'.

 When I'm outputing the data for that query, in a 'view' fuse, I'm
 referring to that query object, as in 'qGetEvent.eventDate'.

 This seems to me to be breaking the whole modularity of my solution, as
 the view is expecting a query object named 'qGetEvent', in order to display
 its data. I feel like I've missed something fundamental in the Fusebox docs
 that will explain to me how to pass that query object down the line as a
 generic object, ratehr than a specifically named variable.

 Whats the trick?


Ryan Sabir
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[cfaussie] Query Parameter List in the Error Structure

2007-02-22 Thread Scott Thornton

I will give that a go on the weekend.


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[cfaussie] Re: CF and .NET (Followup).

2007-02-22 Thread AJ Mercer
hehe. I am going to get me some jaffas to throw :-)


On 2/23/07, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hmm time to get me some popcorn and settle in for a few hours of
 quality entertainment.

 On 2/23/07, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Scott
 
  As our local Microsoft rep, I was wondering if you could provide a
  list of all the online mailing list and discussion forums for .net
  developers?
  I've got a whole bunch of links for online ColdFusion training modules
  and I thought I could post them to all the .Net forums, because I hear
  there's a glut of .Net developers and they could probably all benefit
  from the many high paying CF job vacancies that CF businesses are
  having trouble filling at the moment.
  It would be a great benefit for our poor .net cousins. A real win-win
  synergistic opportunity!
  I'm sure you'll be happy to help these people out.
 
  Darren
 
  On Feb 23, 10:14 am, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   As per my previous thread regarding how Microsoft coul compliment the
   CF piece of the equation, i'm happy to report that we have a win or
   two happening in this space.
  
   If you flick your browsers
 tohttp://www.learn2asp.net/cf/Campaign.aspxyou'll see there is a whole
   bunch of goodness awaiting you starting Monday on how to add ASP.NET
   to your skillset.
  
   Given that these days at times there is a lot of ASP.NET work on this
   may be of relevance.
  
   This message will DrWatson in 30secs.
  
   Scott.
   Microsoft.
 
 
  
 


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[cfaussie] Re: Firefox Javascript problem

2007-02-22 Thread KNOTT, Brian
Thanks for the firebug link.  I did install it and it looks like a great
add on.  Something like this woul dbe greate for IE.
 

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LOL,
 
Well I guess you not interested in FB giving you the answer then:-)
That's what firebug is there for, oh well. I'll move on then.

 
On 2/23/07, KNOTT, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Problem was the firefox needs document infrount of the form name
so
 
window.opener.document.form.field.value works
window.opener.form.field.value does not work.

 

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Brian,
 
Have you looke at Firebug? If you haven't change your channel to
www.getfirebug.com http://www.getfirebug.com/  and I tell you this,
you will wonder how you ever lived without it. 


 
On 2/23/07, Andrew Bateman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:



Try using
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document.getElementById(yourFormId).value instead. I
am pretty sure 
that document.[objectname] is bad joo-joo for many
browsers.







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[cfaussie] Re: session only cookies with the cfapplication tag

2007-02-22 Thread Duncan

Thanks Barry - we thought of this!  I am actually most interested the
cf programming side - can you do session only cookies without using
the separate cfcookie tag?

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  Secondly - this has obvious testing advantages - i.e. being able to
  log in as 2 different user levels on the same site and flick to make
  sure things behave right.

 another way of course is to use 2 different browsers: IE for level 1
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[cfaussie] Re: Free webDU tickets

2007-02-22 Thread Barry Beattie

And after you score a free ticket by stacking the competitions...

(and having been a self-funded attendee before**)

there are tricks to keeping costs down to make the whole process affordable

- transport
_NOW_ is the time to look for the cheap flights, which is really the
only way to do it from interstate. If you're traveling a distance,
greyhound busses aren't *that* cheap in comparison (and the 16hrs
Bris-Syd ain't fun, for example).
don't forget - the airport to city is a bit of a hike. $16 for a train
ticket (each way) might not look cheap but if you're not coming with a
taxi full of people it might be the best option (and even then it
still may be cheaper). There's probably airport-city coaches that'll
save a couple of dollars but you need to end up close to the City Town
Hall/Queen Vic building.
Tip: travel fast and light. If you're staying outside the CBD (accom)
find out about busses/trains.

- accom
Anywhere in the CBD can be expensive. Have you considered asking to
stay on the loungeroom floor of a sydney-sider - a relative or someone
also going (ie: billeted)? failing that, there's bound to be flea-pits
and den-of-antiquities at a good price. Since you'll be all day at
sessions and all night scrounging drinks at the bar, all you need is a
place to put your head and a shower. Backpackers, anyone?

- food.
keep in mind, you've got a fridge full of food at home - don't stay
longer than you need to. Also, the conference provides morning/a'noon
teas and lunches and was so much I ran out of holes in me belt... (so
no need to bring a plastic container for a spare muffin or two for
later on - I have NOT done this ... at WebDU)

Lastly, if you can convince the tax office this is somehow related
with your income, the thing is tax deductable inc food and accom. Talk
to an accountant to get the details (ie: don't bleme me if you go to
gaol)

and if you're in WA, NT, TAS, FNQ  or oversees wanting to go, I'd
start hitching/paddling now...

any other tips I've forgotten?

see you there
b


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On 2/23/07, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Folks,

 As part of various promotional efforts we're giving away a bunch of
 webDU tickets.  If you are hanging out to go but can't afford a ticket
 for whatever reason.. you might throw your hat in the ring for one of
 these freebies.

 webJam (1)
 http://www.webjam.com.au/
 Lucky door prize is a webDU ticket -- just turn up, you never know
 your luck in a big city.

 Developer Magazine (5)
 http://www.developer.net.au/Calendar_of_Events_March_2007_Onwards.htm
 Hmm... almost impossible to find this competition on their site, so
 looks like your chances just went up 1,000 fold.

 Builder AU (5)
 http://www.builderau.com.au/blogs/betaliving/viewblogpost.htm?p=339270762
 Another competition -- but Builder have their act together and a lot
 of people will likely see this competition.  Still nothing ventured
 nothing gained.

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[cfaussie] Re: Free webDU tickets

2007-02-22 Thread Mark Stanton

 any other tips I've forgotten?

Get plenty of sleep and drink lots of water before you come. It can be
a very tiring and dehydrating experience.


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[cfaussie] Re: Free webDU tickets

2007-02-22 Thread Barry Beattie

wot, so you can survive being on the turps all night when you're there?

Ahhh... if that sound like the voice of experiance and lessons learnt,
I couldn't possibly say...




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[cfaussie] Re: session only cookies with the cfapplication tag

2007-02-22 Thread Charlie Arehart

Duncan, I can't think of any security concern to note.

As for your 3rd question, there is indeed a way to do it without this old
trick. It's new as of CFMX 6, and involves the new J2EE sessions feature
that's settable in the Admin console. That means it's for all apps on a
server. It can't be set in application.cfm or .cfc. I wrote about it when it
came out, in an Aug 2002 CFDJ article:

New Possibilities for Session and Client Variable Handling in CFMX
http://cfdj.sys-con.com/read/41646.htm

Hope that helps.

/Charlie
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I cant work out why I never came across this before but can someone answer
this for me? Apologies for asking an age old question thats probably been
asked a million times.

This tag makes a user use a file based cookie, this means that logging in to
one site in one browser window will result in the same sesison in a
completely new instance of the browser.

cfapplication Name=#cgi.http_host#46
   ClientManagement=Yes
   SessionManagement=Yes
   SetClientCookies=Yes
   sessiontimeout=#CreateTimeSpan(0,2,0,0)#
   ApplicationTimeout=#CreateTimeSpan(0,2,0,0)#
   

The following combination of cfapplication and cfcookie makes an in memory
cookie. this means you can log in to site x in 2 different browsers with 2
different logins and maintain 2 different sessions on the same site.

cfapplication Name=#cgi.http_host#46
   ClientManagement=Yes
   SessionManagement=Yes

   sessiontimeout=#CreateTimeSpan(0,2,0,0)#
   ApplicationTimeout=#CreateTimeSpan(0,2,0,0)#
   ClientStorage=red5_client_vars

cfcookie name=cfid value=#Client.cfid# cfcookie name=cftoken
value=#Client.cftoken#

Firstly - whats the protocol as far as security here? Whats the general
consensus - do y'all do the former or the latter? Does it depend on the
application?
Secondly - this has obvious testing advantages - i.e. being able to log in
as 2 different user levels on the same site and flick to make sure things
behave right.
Thirdly - Can you do session only cookies without using the separate
cfcookie tag?

Thanks all!





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[cfaussie] Re: CFSearchEngine.com - A coldfusion (CFML) specific search engine

2007-02-22 Thread Charlie Arehart

Welcome to the CFAussie list, Jeff. :-) I don't see you having posted
before, so will presume that you've just joined.

And to add to his note about CF-based Google Custom Search Engines (CSEs),
I'll point out that I had created one right around the same time he did, and
we ended up sharing the news on some other lists at the same time. Then it
turned out several others had created CF-based CSEs, and I lamented that it
may be because we all simply didn't know others had done it, so I wrote a
blog entry pointing them out and introducing the whole notion. For those
interested, see:

http://carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/2/13/google_cf_CSEs

Oh, and my CSE is at
http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=012970358153442150397%3Aekun5bf_8-m, and
as an update to the info in that blog entry from Feb 13, I now have over 500
sites in the index. Not that it's a competition, of course! :-)

Anyway, that's a generous offer Jeff's made for anyone else interested in
creating yet another. Just please, as I say in the blog entry, don't create
another CF-based one: 9 is enough! :-)

/Charlie
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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of jeff
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:52 PM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] CFSearchEngine.com - A coldfusion (CFML) specific search
engine


I just used Google Co-op, which is a free new product from Google to create
an index of all the coldfusion blogs, discussion forums (yes this one too),
mailing lists, and tutorial sites on the internet that I could find.

It can be found at: CFSearchEngine.com

Currently, there are about 420 sites, and I encourage anyone to submit ones
that aren't on the list to me!  I tried to get some from Australia/NZ, and I
did find quite a few, but I'm sure there are more I'm not aware of.

Also, you can use Google Co-op to index your own site, and its easy to
do.   Let me know if you need any help with that.


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