[cfaussie] Re: cfspreadsheet and vfs

2010-12-01 Thread Andrew
Upgraded to CF 9.0.1.  Still broken, although the exception message is
a little more insightful.

Message An exception occurred while using action=write.
Detail  java.lang.ClassCastException: coldfusion.vfs.VFileOutputStream
cannot be cast to java.io.FileOutputStream

I couldn't find this in the adobe bug database so I might whack it
in...

On Dec 1, 3:31 pm, Andrew am2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Paul.

 On Dec 1, 3:19 pm, Paul Kukiel kuki...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm pretty sure Steve showed this bug at the CFUG a few months ago.  Not
  sure if he logged it but it should be logged as I would expect that to
  have worked.

  Paul

  On 1/12/2010 3:12 PM, Andrew wrote:

   Hi,

   I was just trying to use cfspreadsheet to save into the virtual file
   system but it keeps falling over with an error like:

   Message    An exception occurred while using action=write.
   Detail     java.io.FileNotFoundException: ram://performance.xls

   Here's how I'm calling it:

   cfspreadsheet action=write filename=ram://performance.xls
   query=qPerformanceReport overwrite=true

   If I change the filename to a physical drive and make no other
   changes, eg c:/performance.xls it works.

   As far as I can tell the vfs is working as this code creates a file
   and reads it back successfully:

   cffile action = write
        file = ram://test.txt
        output = This is a test file

   cffile action=read file=ram://test.txt variable=test

   cfoutput#test#/cfoutput

   I'll just fall back to using the physical filesystem here I think, but
   I am interested to know if anyone else has the same issue with
   cfspreadsheet and the vfs?  Or am I doing something wrong?

   I am using CF version 9,0,0,251028 (developer edition) on Windows 7.
   I guess I should try 9.0.1

   Andrew.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: cfspreadsheet and vfs

2010-12-01 Thread Paul Kukiel

Let us know the bug number and I'll vote for it aswell.

Paul.

On 2/12/2010 12:11 PM, Andrew wrote:

Upgraded to CF 9.0.1.  Still broken, although the exception message is
a little more insightful.

Message An exception occurred while using action=write.
Detail  java.lang.ClassCastException: coldfusion.vfs.VFileOutputStream
cannot be cast to java.io.FileOutputStream

I couldn't find this in the adobe bug database so I might whack it
in...

On Dec 1, 3:31 pm, Andrewam2...@gmail.com  wrote:

Thanks Paul.

On Dec 1, 3:19 pm, Paul Kukielkuki...@gmail.com  wrote:


I'm pretty sure Steve showed this bug at the CFUG a few months ago.  Not
sure if he logged it but it should be logged as I would expect that to
have worked.
Paul
On 1/12/2010 3:12 PM, Andrew wrote:

Hi,
I was just trying to use cfspreadsheet to save into the virtual file
system but it keeps falling over with an error like:
MessageAn exception occurred while using action=write.
Detail java.io.FileNotFoundException: ram://performance.xls
Here's how I'm calling it:
cfspreadsheet action=write filename=ram://performance.xls
query=qPerformanceReport overwrite=true
If I change the filename to a physical drive and make no other
changes, eg c:/performance.xls it works.
As far as I can tell the vfs is working as this code creates a file
and reads it back successfully:
cffile action = write
  file = ram://test.txt
  output = This is a test file
cffile action=read file=ram://test.txt variable=test
cfoutput#test#/cfoutput
I'll just fall back to using the physical filesystem here I think, but
I am interested to know if anyone else has the same issue with
cfspreadsheet and the vfs?  Or am I doing something wrong?
I am using CF version 9,0,0,251028 (developer edition) on Windows 7.
I guess I should try 9.0.1
Andrew.


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[cfaussie] Re: cfspreadsheet and vfs

2010-12-01 Thread Andrew
85267.

Thanks!

On Dec 2, 12:18 pm, Paul Kukiel kuki...@gmail.com wrote:
 Let us know the bug number and I'll vote for it aswell.

 Paul.


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[cfaussie] Re: Best practices for retrieving foreign key display names in Entity Beans / DAOs

2010-12-01 Thread Phil Rasmussen
Hi Mark thanks for your response. Yes this is a custom framework that
is modelled off the Bean/DAO/Gateway principles. I guess in general
when setting up new entity beans i will base them off a database
entity, much the same way Hibernate would perform the mapping so an
entity property corresponds to a table field, and many-to-many
relationships will be handled by an array of object instances against
the entity.

I guess my main issue arises when some tables may have many reference
data fields for very simple id/name style tables. Ie in my current
project, and Event table will contain up to 8 foreign keys for things
like EventContactId, EventTypeId, EventLocationId, EventOrganiserId
etc... So the lazy way would be to just add additional getter/setter
methods for the displayname of each of these properties so I would end
up with. getEventContactName(), getEventTypeName() and so on. This way
avoids additional gateway calls and removes the object coupling,
however it seems like i'm just creating unncessary properties for the
Object purely to assist my output at the View layer.

Cheers
Phil

On Dec 1, 3:11 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
 Phil,

 You using ORM, or you writing this yourself?

 Generally, you don't expose your foreign keys in your model as that is
 Relational data, as opposed to Object data.

 Academically when building an OO model, you want to model real world
 objects, so injecting relational data really steps away from that.
 (Obviously there are pragmatic reasons to do this at times, however).

 Generally speaking, yes, you would set up your objects to have
 relationships, so as you rightly described below, you would have a
 user.getType().getName() style API on your User object.

 Hope that helps.

 Mark









 On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Phil Rasmussen ara...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Everyone,

  Just wondering what the best practices were when it comes to
  displaying friendly names of foreign key based values in an Entity
  Bean at the View layer. So lets say for example I have a User bean
  with all the standard getter/setter methods for id/name/dob/age etc,
  but I also have a UserTypeId property which is stored as an ID value
  only corresponding to the foreign key variables.instance.usertypeid

  Now i will obviously have a getter and setter for getUserTypeId and
  setUserTypeId, however at the View layer i also want to display the
  actual User Type name somewhere, and I don't like the idea of making
  additional Gateway calls just to grab a single name value? I've read
  that some people will create objects out of all reference data such as
  having a UserType object which is stored against the User directly,
  and I can then output the name by writing
  #objUser.getUserType.getName()# for example.

  I seem to run into this issue a lot as the bigger the Entity bean the
  more foreign key references will usually exist and somewhere at the
  View layer i need to get the user friendly name value and display it.
  Would love to hear what others are doing with regards to this?

  Cheers
  Phil

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: Best practices for retrieving foreign key display names in Entity Beans / DAOs

2010-12-01 Thread Mark Mandel
I guess the point here is - if you were using an ORM, you would build
relationships, so you wouldn't expose the FK data.

Again, Objects aren't simply a way to expose relational data - the idea
behind OO is to represent real world objects. So your Event should have a
Location, and have an Organiser, much like it would do in the real world.

Good luck!

Mark

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Phil Rasmussen ara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Mark thanks for your response. Yes this is a custom framework that
 is modelled off the Bean/DAO/Gateway principles. I guess in general
 when setting up new entity beans i will base them off a database
 entity, much the same way Hibernate would perform the mapping so an
 entity property corresponds to a table field, and many-to-many
 relationships will be handled by an array of object instances against
 the entity.

 I guess my main issue arises when some tables may have many reference
 data fields for very simple id/name style tables. Ie in my current
 project, and Event table will contain up to 8 foreign keys for things
 like EventContactId, EventTypeId, EventLocationId, EventOrganiserId
 etc... So the lazy way would be to just add additional getter/setter
 methods for the displayname of each of these properties so I would end
 up with. getEventContactName(), getEventTypeName() and so on. This way
 avoids additional gateway calls and removes the object coupling,
 however it seems like i'm just creating unncessary properties for the
 Object purely to assist my output at the View layer.

 Cheers
 Phil

 On Dec 1, 3:11 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
  Phil,
 
  You using ORM, or you writing this yourself?
 
  Generally, you don't expose your foreign keys in your model as that is
  Relational data, as opposed to Object data.
 
  Academically when building an OO model, you want to model real world
  objects, so injecting relational data really steps away from that.
  (Obviously there are pragmatic reasons to do this at times, however).
 
  Generally speaking, yes, you would set up your objects to have
  relationships, so as you rightly described below, you would have a
  user.getType().getName() style API on your User object.
 
  Hope that helps.
 
  Mark
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Phil Rasmussen ara...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi Everyone,
 
   Just wondering what the best practices were when it comes to
   displaying friendly names of foreign key based values in an Entity
   Bean at the View layer. So lets say for example I have a User bean
   with all the standard getter/setter methods for id/name/dob/age etc,
   but I also have a UserTypeId property which is stored as an ID value
   only corresponding to the foreign key variables.instance.usertypeid
 
   Now i will obviously have a getter and setter for getUserTypeId and
   setUserTypeId, however at the View layer i also want to display the
   actual User Type name somewhere, and I don't like the idea of making
   additional Gateway calls just to grab a single name value? I've read
   that some people will create objects out of all reference data such as
   having a UserType object which is stored against the User directly,
   and I can then output the name by writing
   #objUser.getUserType.getName()# for example.
 
   I seem to run into this issue a lot as the bigger the Entity bean the
   more foreign key references will usually exist and somewhere at the
   View layer i need to get the user friendly name value and display it.
   Would love to hear what others are doing with regards to this?
 
   Cheers
   Phil
 
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[cfaussie] Session Variables with multiple sessions

2010-12-01 Thread Anthony Landers
Hi,
I have an inhouse billing application that I now support and are wanting to 
make some modifications to.

I am wanting end users to be able to open up multiple copies of our cf web 
application in different IE windows.
This is so they can be looking at a persons invoice in a session of Internet 
Explorer and then receive a help desk call and proceed to look at a different 
persons invoice in a second session of Internet Explorer.

The application uses session variables to hold ID's etc so if the end user then 
went back to their first Internet Explorer session  it is possible that if they 
clicked onto a button to show the persons details, they would get the details 
from the 2nd Internet Explorer session (help desk call) as the session 
variables would have changed.

So, my question is, can you have separate session variables per Internet 
Explorer window (not tab)?
Is there a better way to manage having the application open multiple times on 
the one PC?

Hope this makes sense.

Cheers
Anthony

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[cfaussie] Re: Best practices for retrieving foreign key display names in Entity Beans / DAOs

2010-12-01 Thread Phil Rasmussen
Yeah look i understand what you are saying about ORM, but our
applications just aren't built that way and the DAO/Entity beans are
more like a direct mapping to the entity tables. The Event does have
all those properties you have specified, except they are not stored as
objects themselves so i currently use getter/setter methods for
handling that additional information. I guess once a related entity is
over a couple of fields in size i will create an object structure out
of it and then store that object reference against the parent.

My initial question was more along the lines of how are other people
dealing with simple reference data against objects and displaying this
information on the frontend.

Thanks anyways.
Phil

On Dec 2, 2:27 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
 I guess the point here is - if you were using an ORM, you would build
 relationships, so you wouldn't expose the FK data.

 Again, Objects aren't simply a way to expose relational data - the idea
 behind OO is to represent real world objects. So your Event should have a
 Location, and have an Organiser, much like it would do in the real world.

 Good luck!

 Mark









 On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Phil Rasmussen ara...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Mark thanks for your response. Yes this is a custom framework that
  is modelled off the Bean/DAO/Gateway principles. I guess in general
  when setting up new entity beans i will base them off a database
  entity, much the same way Hibernate would perform the mapping so an
  entity property corresponds to a table field, and many-to-many
  relationships will be handled by an array of object instances against
  the entity.

  I guess my main issue arises when some tables may have many reference
  data fields for very simple id/name style tables. Ie in my current
  project, and Event table will contain up to 8 foreign keys for things
  like EventContactId, EventTypeId, EventLocationId, EventOrganiserId
  etc... So the lazy way would be to just add additional getter/setter
  methods for the displayname of each of these properties so I would end
  up with. getEventContactName(), getEventTypeName() and so on. This way
  avoids additional gateway calls and removes the object coupling,
  however it seems like i'm just creating unncessary properties for the
  Object purely to assist my output at the View layer.

  Cheers
  Phil

  On Dec 1, 3:11 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
   Phil,

   You using ORM, or you writing this yourself?

   Generally, you don't expose your foreign keys in your model as that is
   Relational data, as opposed to Object data.

   Academically when building an OO model, you want to model real world
   objects, so injecting relational data really steps away from that.
   (Obviously there are pragmatic reasons to do this at times, however).

   Generally speaking, yes, you would set up your objects to have
   relationships, so as you rightly described below, you would have a
   user.getType().getName() style API on your User object.

   Hope that helps.

   Mark

   On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Phil Rasmussen ara...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Just wondering what the best practices were when it comes to
displaying friendly names of foreign key based values in an Entity
Bean at the View layer. So lets say for example I have a User bean
with all the standard getter/setter methods for id/name/dob/age etc,
but I also have a UserTypeId property which is stored as an ID value
only corresponding to the foreign key variables.instance.usertypeid

Now i will obviously have a getter and setter for getUserTypeId and
setUserTypeId, however at the View layer i also want to display the
actual User Type name somewhere, and I don't like the idea of making
additional Gateway calls just to grab a single name value? I've read
that some people will create objects out of all reference data such as
having a UserType object which is stored against the User directly,
and I can then output the name by writing
#objUser.getUserType.getName()# for example.

I seem to run into this issue a lot as the bigger the Entity bean the
more foreign key references will usually exist and somewhere at the
View layer i need to get the user friendly name value and display it.
Would love to hear what others are doing with regards to this?

Cheers
Phil

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Re: [cfaussie] Session Variables with multiple sessions

2010-12-01 Thread Barry Beattie
I personally would never use session variables to hold transitory record
data (ie: what the user is working on). For me the session variables is all
about the user at that login, nothing about what they are trying to do.

if I wanted multiple browser instances (or multiple tabs) to deal with each
record, I'd be passing the record ID around in the URL or form submit's.
Treat each browser tab (or instance) as a silo

but that's just my 2c.

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Anthony Landers 
anthony.land...@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au wrote:

  Hi,

 I have an inhouse billing application that I now support and are wanting to
 make some modifications to.



 I am wanting end users to be able to open up multiple copies of our cf web
 application in different IE windows.

 This is so they can be looking at a persons invoice in a session of
 Internet Explorer and then receive a help desk call and proceed to look at a
 different persons invoice in a second session of Internet Explorer.



 The application uses session variables to hold ID's etc so if the end user
 then went back to their first Internet Explorer session  it is possible that
 if they clicked onto a button to show the persons details, they would get
 the details from the 2nd Internet Explorer session (help desk call) as the
 session variables would have changed.



 So, my question is, can you have separate session variables per Internet
 Explorer window (not tab)?

 Is there a better way to manage having the application open multiple times
 on the one PC?



 Hope this makes sense.



 Cheers

 Anthony



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Re: [cfaussie] Re: Best practices for retrieving foreign key display names in Entity Beans / DAOs

2010-12-01 Thread Terry Sasaki
Phil,

Assuming you need to stick to the current architecture, I would
suggest a super pragmatic approach like:

#application.someLookupHelperService.getLookUpDesc( userType,
objUser.getUserTypeId() )#

Obviously someLookupHelperService contains referenced tables
(structure) as private members, and it is cached.

I personally prefer to objUser.getUserType().getName() approach if
possible though.

Cheers,
Terry

On 2 December 2010 15:22, Phil Rasmussen ara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah look i understand what you are saying about ORM, but our
 applications just aren't built that way and the DAO/Entity beans are
 more like a direct mapping to the entity tables. The Event does have
 all those properties you have specified, except they are not stored as
 objects themselves so i currently use getter/setter methods for
 handling that additional information. I guess once a related entity is
 over a couple of fields in size i will create an object structure out
 of it and then store that object reference against the parent.

 My initial question was more along the lines of how are other people
 dealing with simple reference data against objects and displaying this
 information on the frontend.

 Thanks anyways.
 Phil

 On Dec 2, 2:27 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
 I guess the point here is - if you were using an ORM, you would build
 relationships, so you wouldn't expose the FK data.

 Again, Objects aren't simply a way to expose relational data - the idea
 behind OO is to represent real world objects. So your Event should have a
 Location, and have an Organiser, much like it would do in the real world.

 Good luck!

 Mark









 On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Phil Rasmussen ara...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Mark thanks for your response. Yes this is a custom framework that
  is modelled off the Bean/DAO/Gateway principles. I guess in general
  when setting up new entity beans i will base them off a database
  entity, much the same way Hibernate would perform the mapping so an
  entity property corresponds to a table field, and many-to-many
  relationships will be handled by an array of object instances against
  the entity.

  I guess my main issue arises when some tables may have many reference
  data fields for very simple id/name style tables. Ie in my current
  project, and Event table will contain up to 8 foreign keys for things
  like EventContactId, EventTypeId, EventLocationId, EventOrganiserId
  etc... So the lazy way would be to just add additional getter/setter
  methods for the displayname of each of these properties so I would end
  up with. getEventContactName(), getEventTypeName() and so on. This way
  avoids additional gateway calls and removes the object coupling,
  however it seems like i'm just creating unncessary properties for the
  Object purely to assist my output at the View layer.

  Cheers
  Phil

  On Dec 1, 3:11 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
   Phil,

   You using ORM, or you writing this yourself?

   Generally, you don't expose your foreign keys in your model as that is
   Relational data, as opposed to Object data.

   Academically when building an OO model, you want to model real world
   objects, so injecting relational data really steps away from that.
   (Obviously there are pragmatic reasons to do this at times, however).

   Generally speaking, yes, you would set up your objects to have
   relationships, so as you rightly described below, you would have a
   user.getType().getName() style API on your User object.

   Hope that helps.

   Mark

   On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Phil Rasmussen ara...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Just wondering what the best practices were when it comes to
displaying friendly names of foreign key based values in an Entity
Bean at the View layer. So lets say for example I have a User bean
with all the standard getter/setter methods for id/name/dob/age etc,
but I also have a UserTypeId property which is stored as an ID value
only corresponding to the foreign key variables.instance.usertypeid

Now i will obviously have a getter and setter for getUserTypeId and
setUserTypeId, however at the View layer i also want to display the
actual User Type name somewhere, and I don't like the idea of making
additional Gateway calls just to grab a single name value? I've read
that some people will create objects out of all reference data such as
having a UserType object which is stored against the User directly,
and I can then output the name by writing
#objUser.getUserType.getName()# for example.

I seem to run into this issue a lot as the bigger the Entity bean the
more foreign key references will usually exist and somewhere at the
View layer i need to get the user friendly name value and display it.
Would love to hear what others are doing with regards to this?

Cheers
Phil

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