Re: [Chicken-users] Wiki design

2013-12-18 Thread Christian Kellermann
* Arthur Maciel arthurmac...@gmail.com [131218 08:43]:
 Dear chickeneers,
 
 I messed up a bit with the wiki design and below is a link to a sketch.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/621606/chicken-wiki.tar.gz
 
 The packages should be extracted and new_wiki.html should be opened in a
 browser. The file old_wiki.html goes for comparison with the actual
 design.
 
 This involved a good deal of hackery, but my focus was on presentation - I
 could fix it if intended to be used. I changed the css, but also the html
 file. So if someone likes it, we would need to change the wiki in order to
 produce a little bit different html from its default syntax.
 
 Beyond the design itself I could also redefine numbered lists so now
 sublists start counting from their parents number (ex.: 1, 2, 3, 3.1, 3.2,
 4, 5, etc.).
 
 The changes were based on the wiki page of an egg I intend to release soon.
 I'm not sure if the changes apply to all wiki pages.
 
 I hope you like it. If you don't, please let me know how I could do a
 better job! Thanks in advance!

I have to say, I like it! Thanks for the suggestion! What do the
others think?

In the end I would like to get rid of the reference to googlefonts
and the googleusercontent stuff. If it is by the chicken project,
it should be served off the browser. All these newfangled CDN tricks
these days...


Kind regards,

Christian

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Re: [Chicken-users] Wiki design

2013-12-18 Thread Daniel Beecham
I love it!

Perhaps .definition-record could have a slightly larger padding to make the
titles more prominent? 0.5 ems instead of 0.3?
Perhaps the title could also be indented just a smidge; .definition {
padding: 0.5em 0.5em 0.5em 1em }; ?

I'm just spawning ideas here, it looks good either way to me. Great work.


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Christian Kellermann
ck...@pestilenz.orgwrote:

 * Arthur Maciel arthurmac...@gmail.com [131218 08:43]:
  Dear chickeneers,
 
  I messed up a bit with the wiki design and below is a link to a sketch.
 
  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/621606/chicken-wiki.tar.gz
 
  The packages should be extracted and new_wiki.html should be opened in
 a
  browser. The file old_wiki.html goes for comparison with the actual
  design.
 
  This involved a good deal of hackery, but my focus was on presentation -
 I
  could fix it if intended to be used. I changed the css, but also the html
  file. So if someone likes it, we would need to change the wiki in order
 to
  produce a little bit different html from its default syntax.
 
  Beyond the design itself I could also redefine numbered lists so now
  sublists start counting from their parents number (ex.: 1, 2, 3, 3.1,
 3.2,
  4, 5, etc.).
 
  The changes were based on the wiki page of an egg I intend to release
 soon.
  I'm not sure if the changes apply to all wiki pages.
 
  I hope you like it. If you don't, please let me know how I could do a
  better job! Thanks in advance!

 I have to say, I like it! Thanks for the suggestion! What do the
 others think?

 In the end I would like to get rid of the reference to googlefonts
 and the googleusercontent stuff. If it is by the chicken project,
 it should be served off the browser. All these newfangled CDN tricks
 these days...


 Kind regards,

 Christian

 --
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 water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong, nothing can
 surpass it. --- Lao Tzu

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Re: [Chicken-users] Wiki design

2013-12-18 Thread Arthur Maciel
Thank you for your feedback, Christian and Daniel!

I tried to adjust the code according to your suggestions and made other
modifications too. No doubt it is still hacky, but the point now is to
gather opinions about this possibility (and others too).

For those who would like to see the last bundle here is the link:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/621606/chicken-wiki.tar.gz

Best wishes,
Arthur


2013/12/18 Daniel Beecham dan...@lunix.se

 I love it!

 Perhaps .definition-record could have a slightly larger padding to make
 the titles more prominent? 0.5 ems instead of 0.3?
 Perhaps the title could also be indented just a smidge; .definition {
 padding: 0.5em 0.5em 0.5em 1em }; ?

 I'm just spawning ideas here, it looks good either way to me. Great work.


 On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Christian Kellermann 
 ck...@pestilenz.org wrote:

 * Arthur Maciel arthurmac...@gmail.com [131218 08:43]:
  Dear chickeneers,
 
  I messed up a bit with the wiki design and below is a link to a sketch.
 
  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/621606/chicken-wiki.tar.gz
 
  The packages should be extracted and new_wiki.html should be opened
 in a
  browser. The file old_wiki.html goes for comparison with the actual
  design.
 
  This involved a good deal of hackery, but my focus was on presentation
 - I
  could fix it if intended to be used. I changed the css, but also the
 html
  file. So if someone likes it, we would need to change the wiki in order
 to
  produce a little bit different html from its default syntax.
 
  Beyond the design itself I could also redefine numbered lists so now
  sublists start counting from their parents number (ex.: 1, 2, 3, 3.1,
 3.2,
  4, 5, etc.).
 
  The changes were based on the wiki page of an egg I intend to release
 soon.
  I'm not sure if the changes apply to all wiki pages.
 
  I hope you like it. If you don't, please let me know how I could do a
  better job! Thanks in advance!

 I have to say, I like it! Thanks for the suggestion! What do the
 others think?

 In the end I would like to get rid of the reference to googlefonts
 and the googleusercontent stuff. If it is by the chicken project,
 it should be served off the browser. All these newfangled CDN tricks
 these days...


 Kind regards,

 Christian

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 water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong, nothing can
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Re: [Chicken-users] Wiki design

2013-12-18 Thread Peter Bex
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 04:54:03PM -0200, Arthur Maciel wrote:
 Thank you for your feedback, Christian and Daniel!
 
 I tried to adjust the code according to your suggestions and made other
 modifications too. No doubt it is still hacky, but the point now is to
 gather opinions about this possibility (and others too).

I like the new design as well!  I agree about the removal of
all things Google, and I'm happy to see you've done this.
Overall it's an improvement and I'm in favor of using this new
design, but there are a few problems I've noticed that should
probably be fixed first:

Right now my main laptop is unusable so I'm on an older iBook,
where the resolution is kind of low.  Due to the small screen size
the search boxes overlap with the menu tabs.  I imagine the same
happens on those fancy new tablet thingies as well.

The little CHICKEN logo looks very pixelated, with hard edges.  This
is due to the browser's ugly resizing; I recommend scaling the image
to the desired size with a decent graphics editor.  This should also
make the download size smaller.

Finally, the matching paren highlighting thing in the source snippet
goes haywire when I hover over some code: it overlines everything
here.  I guess the text height is slightly different from the
surrounding spans or something like that.

Thanks for putting in the effort to freshen things up a bit!

Cheers,
Peter
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Re: [Chicken-users] Wiki design

2013-12-18 Thread Evan Hanson
On 19/12/13 08:41, Peter Bex wrote:
 Right now my main laptop is unusable so I'm on an older iBook,
 where the resolution is kind of low.  Due to the small screen size
 the search boxes overlap with the menu tabs.  I imagine the same
 happens on those fancy new tablet thingies as well.

Same here.

 Finally, the matching paren highlighting thing in the source snippet
 goes haywire when I hover over some code: it overlines everything
 here.  I guess the text height is slightly different from the
 surrounding spans or something like that.

I have also noticed this, but it was always in a Firefox that's fairly
well-stocked with RequestPolicy/NoScript-type addons, so I always
chalked it up those. However, I notice now that even when disabling all
of these it still happens. Firefox only here; it doesn't happen in
Chromium or Opera.

Evan

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Re: [Chicken-users] Wiki design

2013-12-18 Thread Evan Hanson
On 2013-12-19  8:49, Evan Hanson wrote:
 On 19/12/13 08:41, Peter Bex wrote:
  Finally, the matching paren highlighting thing in the source snippet
  goes haywire when I hover over some code: it overlines everything
  here.  I guess the text height is slightly different from the
  surrounding spans or something like that.
 
 I have also noticed this, but it was always in a Firefox that's fairly
 well-stocked with RequestPolicy/NoScript-type addons, so I always
 chalked it up those. However, I notice now that even when disabling all
 of these it still happens. Firefox only here; it doesn't happen in
 Chromium or Opera.

I should have clarified: this currently happens on the actual wiki for
me, as well.

Evan

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Re: [Chicken-users] Wiki design

2013-12-18 Thread Peter Bex
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 09:17:48AM +1300, Evan Hanson wrote:
 On 2013-12-19  8:49, Evan Hanson wrote:
  On 19/12/13 08:41, Peter Bex wrote:
   Finally, the matching paren highlighting thing in the source snippet
   goes haywire when I hover over some code: it overlines everything
   here.  I guess the text height is slightly different from the
   surrounding spans or something like that.
  
  I have also noticed this, but it was always in a Firefox that's fairly
  well-stocked with RequestPolicy/NoScript-type addons, so I always
  chalked it up those. However, I notice now that even when disabling all
  of these it still happens. Firefox only here; it doesn't happen in
  Chromium or Opera.
 
 I should have clarified: this currently happens on the actual wiki for
 me, as well.

What's your resolution?  I'm also using Firefox (Iceweasel) with
NoScript on my iBook, at a resolution of 1024x768 (don't laugh, please)
and I *don't* get any overlaps on the live wiki.  The search boxes are
neatly inside the white main part of the page, below the menu tabs
which protrude above the main box.

Cheers,
Peter
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Re: [Chicken-users] Wiki design

2013-12-18 Thread Evan Hanson
On 2013-12-18 21:28, Peter Bex wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 09:17:48AM +1300, Evan Hanson wrote:
  On 2013-12-19  8:49, Evan Hanson wrote:
   On 19/12/13 08:41, Peter Bex wrote:
Finally, the matching paren highlighting thing in the source snippet
goes haywire when I hover over some code: it overlines everything
here.  I guess the text height is slightly different from the
surrounding spans or something like that.
   
   I have also noticed this, but it was always in a Firefox that's fairly
   well-stocked with RequestPolicy/NoScript-type addons, so I always
   chalked it up those. However, I notice now that even when disabling all
   of these it still happens. Firefox only here; it doesn't happen in
   Chromium or Opera.
  
  I should have clarified: this currently happens on the actual wiki for
  me, as well.
 
 What's your resolution?  I'm also using Firefox (Iceweasel) with
 NoScript on my iBook, at a resolution of 1024x768 (don't laugh, please)
 and I *don't* get any overlaps on the live wiki.  The search boxes are
 neatly inside the white main part of the page, below the menu tabs
 which protrude above the main box.

Also Iceweasel, 1366x768 and 1600x900, it happens with both. This is
just for the paren highlighting (the 1px overline) -- the search boxes
look right, as you describe, on the live wiki.

Evan

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