[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-10-10 Thread Evan Martin
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Amanda Walker ama...@chromium.org wrote:  But the problem is : where are the count-numbers of files? There is no explicit count.  As WebKit parses HTML, we queue up requests for resources that are encountered in that HTML.  We only know we're done when there

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-10-10 Thread Viet-Trung Luu
Evan Martin wrote: But if it were possible to make a progress bar that browser developers thought would be meaningful, they would have been integrated into browsers already. The bar part of a progress bar is usually useless. What's nice is being able to see that things are actually getting

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-10-10 Thread Evan Martin
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Viet-Trung Luu viettrung...@gmail.com wrote: I feel like the throbber should somehow indicate that things are actually being loaded (as opposed to hanging, waiting for something which may never complete). Maybe it already does that and I haven't noticed

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-10-09 Thread Jickae Davis
Well, I agree with PhistucK. I think a progress bar may help though it's not so accurate. By the way, if I want to add such a bar with chromium, how should I start? Is there a method that tells the size of the resources to be loaded and the size of the resources already loaded? 2009/9/29 Peter

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-10-09 Thread Paweł Hajdan Jr .
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:01, Jickae Davis jick...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I agree with PhistucK. I think a progress bar may help though it's not so accurate. By the way, if I want to add such a bar with chromium, how should I start? Is there a method that tells the size of the resources to

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-10-09 Thread Jickae Davis
3x,Paweł . I'm not trying to debug slow-loading pages. I'm reading chromium's src codes and wondering how to add a loading-progress bar based on chromium. Maybe I will to give a try to add such a bar. 2009/10/9 Paweł Hajdan Jr. phajdan...@chromium.org On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:01, Jickae Davis

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-10-09 Thread Amanda Walker
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Jickae Davis jick...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I agree with PhistucK. I think a progress bar may help though it's not so accurate. By the way, if I want to add such a bar with chromium, how should I start? Is there a method that tells the size of the resources to

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-10-09 Thread Finnur Thorarinsson
As I understand it, you are talking about adding an overall progress bar for page loading and showing the progress bar somewhere in the Chrome UI. If that is the case, then bear in mind that you need buy-in from the UX team before you add the UI element to the Chromium codebase. I know we left out

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-10-09 Thread Jickae Davis
No--there is in fact no way to determine that in advance. Each resource can reference other resources, and even for a single resource we often don't know what size it is until we finish loading it. We could provide a dynamically-updating bar with a fraction of

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-10-09 Thread Jickae Davis
As I understand it, you are talking about adding an overall progress bar for page loading and showing the progress bar somewhere in the Chrome UI. yes, I'm interested in chromium. If that is the case, then bear in mind that you need buy-in from the UX team before you add the UI element to

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-10-09 Thread Amanda Walker
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Jickae Davis jick...@gmail.com wrote: No--there is in fact no way to determine that in advance. Each resource can reference other resources, and even for a single resource we often don't know what size it is until we finish loading it. We could provide a

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-09-28 Thread Evan Martin
Just a guess, but I think it's because progress bars are misleading. If you show a bar for just the progress on the HTML, you reach 100% before the page even displays right; if you wait for all subresources to load, you will hover below 100% as large images or slow subresources load (you ever

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-09-28 Thread PhistucK
Yeah, but some indication will be helpful, even the one IE has been giving - ## images downloading or something. A count down for resources, even if the resource count changes every few seconds, it is still preferable against being lost in the dark in some way. Do you not agree? ☆PhistucK On

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-09-28 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:21 PM, PhistucK phist...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but some indication will be helpful, even the one IE has been giving - ## images downloading or something. A count down for resources, even if the resource count changes every few seconds, it is still preferable against

[chromium-dev] Re: Is that unimpossible to add a progress bar of page loading with webkit?

2009-09-28 Thread Peter Kasting
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Mike Pinkerton pinker...@chromium.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:21 PM, PhistucK phist...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but some indication will be helpful, even the one IE has been giving - Do you not agree? I do not agree. I agree with pinkerton. This is