Re: [chrony-dev] Drop cmdmon authentication?

2015-04-25 Thread Ed W
On 13/04/2015 11:25, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: While I was dealing with the latest security bugs I wondered how useful these days it really is to have support for remote administration via authenticated cmdmon and if it's not just increasing the chronyd attack surface unnecessarily. Does anyone he

[chrony-dev] Feature request: Set RTC if error > X secs

2013-10-25 Thread Ed W
Grateful if you could consider this... Thanks Ed W -- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] Bug -- interaction between ntpdate and chronyd at bootup -- will never sync up

2013-02-07 Thread Ed W
nvest additional time getting a much closer timestamp from chrony and eventually gpsd. Good luck Ed W -- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject

Re: [chrony-dev] Slow bootup with git

2012-05-27 Thread Ed W
On 23/05/2012 15:37, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:18:13AM +0100, Ed W wrote: I guess then the question is whether increased accuracy of reading is useful beyond 2 samples? Remember that gaussian error bound decreases fairly slowly with increasing samples (1 / sqrt(n

Re: [chrony-dev] Slow bootup with git

2012-04-25 Thread Ed W
hoping he will put me straight at this point! Thanks Ed W -- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] Slow bootup with git

2012-04-25 Thread Ed W
ur work on chrony! Ed W -- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] Slow bootup with git

2012-04-23 Thread Ed W
time difference is almost completely the stuff I mentioned. I have patched it out in my current build just for testing and chrony startup is now near enough instant. (measured at 0.13s) Kind regards Ed W -- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe"

Re: [chrony-dev] Slow bootup with git

2012-04-17 Thread Ed W
On 16/04/2012 11:32, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 02:48:14AM +0100, Ed W wrote: Hi, I have adjusted my boot scripts to use chrony in place of hwclock to set rtc at boot. However, I note that "chrony -r" takes about 8-10 seconds on my system (which blocks boot). I

[chrony-dev] Slow bootup with git

2012-04-16 Thread Ed W
de here? I would prefer not to revert to hwclock if possible? Thanks Ed W -- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] Running chronyd without syncing system clock

2012-02-23 Thread Ed W
On 23/02/2012 08:24, Leo Baltus wrote: Op 22/02/2012 om 23:07:51 +, schreef Ed W: In our setup we do not like to pin a service to a specific piece of hardware. If, for some reason, a service should run elsewhere we just stop it en start it elsewhere. bind() make is invisible for the outside

Re: [chrony-dev] Running chronyd without syncing system clock

2012-02-22 Thread Ed W
sical machine? (Just the appearance that instances are doing something?) What do you think? Good luck Ed W -- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help"

Re: [chrony-dev] [GIT] chrony/chrony.git branch, master, updated. 1.26-26-g9a01ccc

2011-11-30 Thread Ed W
On 28/11/2011 10:15, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 10:39:33AM +0000, Ed W wrote: >> On 25/11/2011 10:12, Ed W wrote: >>> As you have clearly started to push the boundaries of curve fitting >>> here, have you considered switching to some kind of Kal

Re: [chrony-dev] [GIT] chrony/chrony.git branch, master, updated. 1.26-26-g9a01ccc

2011-11-25 Thread Ed W
On 25/11/2011 10:12, Ed W wrote: > As you have clearly started to push the boundaries of curve fitting > here, have you considered switching to some kind of Kalman filtering > technique? Implemented correctly this can potentially simultaneously > incorporate the updating of the

Re: [chrony-dev] [GIT] chrony/chrony.git branch, master, updated. 1.26-26-g9a01ccc

2011-11-25 Thread Ed W
e phase locked loop. (which is approximately what we are implementing with Chrony I think?) Cheers Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] Support for another crypto hash?

2011-11-07 Thread Ed W
On 07/11/2011 12:57, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 04:39:10PM +0000, Ed W wrote: >> Hi >> >> >>> I couldn't find a specification for the extended format. >> I think it's RFC2307. However, I am slightly confused on where it's

Re: [chrony-dev] Support for another crypto hash?

2011-11-05 Thread Ed W
ly sure which hashes you are referring to here, so my suggestions on format above were really more about exactly that, format. Others have standardised on a particular format string, suggest you go with that. Good luck Ed W > --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] Support for another crypto hash?

2011-11-03 Thread Ed W
signed exchanges... Just a brain dump - sorry if it's not helpful... Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] Support for another crypto hash?

2011-10-19 Thread Ed W
On 19/10/2011 11:30, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 06:48:28PM +0100, Ed W wrote: >> On 17/10/2011 12:25, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: >>> Another way would be to use a crypto library like nss (we can't use >>> openssl as it's not compatible w

Re: [chrony-dev] Support for another crypto hash?

2011-10-19 Thread Ed W
t take offence at any of the above, I'm just frustrated that you won't read what has been sent to you Regards Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] Support for another crypto hash?

2011-10-18 Thread Ed W
On 18/10/2011 20:30, Bill Unruh wrote: > On Tue, 18 Oct 2011, Ed W wrote: >> Please don't lets argue this further. Point is that there exists some >> slug of code to compute hashes, that you can do with absolutely whatever >> you wish. > > While it is true tha

Re: [chrony-dev] Support for another crypto hash?

2011-10-18 Thread Ed W
phy/categories.html#PublicDomainSoftware Please don't lets argue this further. Point is that there exists some slug of code to compute hashes, that you can do with absolutely whatever you wish. Regards Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsub

Re: [chrony-dev] Support for another crypto hash?

2011-10-18 Thread Ed W
27;m not sure that sha-256 is provably more secure than sha-512 at present, so my vote would be on the shorter hash? Google can give you as good an opinion as I can on this though... Cheers Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in

Re: [chrony-dev] Support for another crypto hash?

2011-10-18 Thread Ed W
ssl as it's not compatible with GPL) and allow user to select any > hash supported by the library. > How about libtomcrypt? Used for dropbear amongst other things. Public domain so you can repackage it under any licence you feel fit including GPL http://libtom.org/?page=features&a

Re: [chrony-dev] Issue with version 1.25 and GPRS/GSM connections

2011-08-12 Thread Ed W
oint Thanks Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] Issue with version 1.25 and GPRS/GSM connections

2011-08-12 Thread Ed W
TT, they would hit it at 16.384s over dialup? That actually doesn't sound too unreasonable for a default? (or is it the jitter which is measured, ie <1ms on lan?) Cheers Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject

Re: [chrony-dev] Issue with version 1.25 and GPRS/GSM connections

2011-08-12 Thread Ed W
e from about 1sec to 3-4 sec and back over a 10-30+ sec period It would be very helpful if chrony could at least not get "stuck" in such a bad situation. Obviously accept that performance is extremely limited in such circumstances... Cheers Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@

Re: [chrony-dev] Question / Feature suggestion - trimrtc on start?

2011-07-22 Thread Ed W
er, yes, I intend to use chrony instead of hwclock (I don't see anyone needs hwclock now - kernel does --rtctosys itself and I think many distros don't call --systortc, so hwclock is mostly redundant?) Cheers Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfami

Re: [chrony-dev] Question / Feature suggestion - trimrtc on start?

2011-07-20 Thread Ed W
all if we are being rebooted more often than every X hours, then we get to step the RTC more often via 1) Cheers Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "hel

Re: [chrony-dev] Question / Feature suggestion - trimrtc on start?

2011-07-20 Thread Ed W
;dialup" and only intermittently connected and often not cleanly rebooted (and mass market and earning money...) Thanks for any thoughts Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] Question / Feature suggestion - trimrtc on start?

2011-07-20 Thread Ed W
p and then rudely powered off without ever connecting to the internet (Also: If I do get connected to the internet then it's 2,400 baud, 1sec RTT and $1.50/min - I probably don't get marvelous time estimates and I definitely will have the connection maxed out and queuing packets on the inte

Re: [chrony-dev] Question / Feature suggestion - trimrtc on start?

2011-07-20 Thread Ed W
ween on/off (I get that there exist situations where this wouldn't be true and likewise I haven't measured my situation either) > There is an argument for > not having the rtc stuff in chrony anymore. I guess I will measure and try to estimate the effect I would say that there i

[chrony-dev] Question / Feature suggestion - trimrtc on start?

2011-07-20 Thread Ed W
nt to run trimrtc periodically, what is a sensible frequency to set cron to call trimrtc? Hourly, daily, weekly? What is the shortest sensible trim that will still lead to a moderate estimate of RTC drift being learned? Thanks Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamil

Re: [chrony-dev] Chrony 1.26 released

2011-07-13 Thread Ed W
try, but an authoritive name server declaring NXDOMAIN causes the server to be dropped? Presumably the issue is that Network Manager answers NXDOMAIN if the network down? (untested - just guessing?) Grateful if you could clarify the implications Cheers Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-

Re: [chrony-dev] [GIT] chrony/chrony.git branch, master, updated. 1.25-pre1-18-g20a4340

2011-04-19 Thread Ed W
sider doing some development on master to create a "weighting" feature, then wanting to transplant all those individual commits back to the release branch that you had previously forked. Apologies since we are way OT now... How are we looking for a release at this point though?! Che

Re: [chrony-dev] [GIT] chrony/chrony.git branch, master, updated. 1.25-pre1-18-g20a4340

2011-04-15 Thread Ed W
e is stable, pull into master. Generally this keeps master *more* stable (not less) and gives you more freedom to checkin ideas willy nilly. Anyway, these are just ideas and opinions, use whatever suits, just checking you had come across the principle - it works very nicely for me (an

Re: [chrony-dev] [GIT] chrony/chrony.git branch, master, updated. 1.25-pre1-18-g20a4340

2011-04-14 Thread Ed W
on dangerous improvements are easily backported to previous releases. This seems to work for both developers and users in that you can now pick a branch with the features you need and stabilise on it Thanks for all your work on this - hope the above doesn't teach you to suck eggs and appears constr

Re: [chrony-dev] [GIT] chrony/chrony.git branch, master, updated. 1.25-pre1-18-g20a4340

2011-04-13 Thread Ed W
On 13/04/2011 12:10, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:32:31PM +0100, Ed W wrote: >> On 12/04/2011 15:05, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: >>> Hm, I just had a crash while I was messing with the tick value outside >>> chronyd. The sourcestats stddev ended up

Re: [chrony-dev] [GIT] chrony/chrony.git branch, master, updated. 1.25-pre1-18-g20a4340

2011-04-12 Thread Ed W
On 12/04/2011 15:05, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 10:00:36PM +0100, Ed W wrote: >> Been running this for a few days. Not particularly thrashing it, but >> nothing untoward happened... >> >> How are we looking for a release? > > Hm, I just had

Re: [chrony-dev] [GIT] chrony/chrony.git branch, master, updated. 1.25-pre1-18-g20a4340

2011-04-11 Thread Ed W
On 11/04/2011 17:44, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 10:00:36PM +0100, Ed W wrote: >> Been running this for a few days. Not particularly thrashing it, but >> nothing untoward happened... >> >> How are we looking for a release? > > Maybe at t

Re: [chrony-dev] [GIT] chrony/chrony.git branch, master, updated. 1.25-pre1-18-g20a4340

2011-04-09 Thread Ed W
Been running this for a few days. Not particularly thrashing it, but nothing untoward happened... How are we looking for a release? :-) Ed W On 07/04/2011 17:36, g...@tuxfamily.net wrote: > This is an automated email from git. It was enerated because a ref > change was pushed

Re: [chrony-dev] preparing for 1.25-pre1

2011-03-10 Thread Ed W
on... Dare you to cut a release... :-) Thanks for all your work on chrony! Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] adjusting frequency on the basis of temperature

2010-12-15 Thread Ed W
ut your setup! All the best Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] adjusting frequency on the basis of temperature

2010-12-11 Thread Ed W
latencies, so kind of surprised that you can get decently accurate internet ntp updates? Out of curiousity, apart from Iridium, how else are you getting internet down there? All the best Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the su

Re: [chrony-dev] Time for a release?

2010-11-24 Thread Ed W
On 07/10/2010 16:17, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 02:30:46PM +0100, Ed W wrote: Do you think that we could see a release at some imminent point? I do realise that there is a git repo, but for various reasons it's easier to build packages from tarballs. Seems like

Re: [chrony-dev] Time for a release?

2010-10-07 Thread Ed W
. Costs per MB range between $10-100/MB Probably we will try and use a USB GPS most of the time, but there are some scenarios where we would be interested to try and get good accuracy from a remote NTP source... Fun huh... Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org

Re: [chrony-dev] Time for a release?

2010-10-07 Thread Ed W
;beta" tarball and uploading? Cheers Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

[chrony-dev] Time for a release?

2010-10-07 Thread Ed W
he distros? Cheers Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] can chrony adjust H/W clock too ?q:q

2010-04-21 Thread Ed W
te the RTC automatically without me needing to ask it to (I'm assuming clean shutdowns will rarely occur...). However, it's a fairly minor thing to work around Thanks Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject.

Re: [chrony-dev] can chrony adjust H/W clock too ?

2010-04-21 Thread Ed W
the error caused by hwclock is so small it's not relevant). So the end result is negligible, but I just thought it worth pointing out how the idiot user (mis)understands the documentation as it stands... Cheers Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with &q

Re: [chrony-dev] can chrony adjust H/W clock too ?

2010-04-20 Thread Ed W
eemed like a good idea...). In practice the error isn't gross enough in my situation that the error was very obvious... Some docs stating the obvious would be cool? Cheers Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. F

Re: [chrony-dev] Bug Tracking

2009-12-29 Thread Ed W
bugs in Chrony...? ;-) Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in the subject. For help email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "help" in the subject. Trouble? Email listmas...@chrony.tuxfamily.org.

Re: [chrony-dev] Re: Chrony files need rescuing

2009-10-30 Thread Ed W
Bill Unruh wrote: One thing I do is every night to a chronyc rotatelogs command and maybe this is associated with that. Set it to do it every minute and see if it breaks more quickly? Ed W --- To unsubscribe email chrony-dev-requ...@chrony.tuxfamily.org with "unsubscribe" in t