Re: [ChurchillChat] @Darkest Hour Reviews

2018-03-15 Thread 'johnmat...@aol.com' via ChurchillChat 
Dear Judy I agree with your observations. Please send me your best PO mailing 
address to johnmat...@aol.com. Also I need to chat with you soon. I have 
ordered your book and hope to see it soon. Congratulations on wrapping it up. 
John

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> On Mar 15, 2018, at 8:22 PM, Grimsdyke <lincoln.ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have to admit that I hated this movie. It made Churchill look doddering and 
> indecisive, made him appear to be flustered by Halifax's challenges to his 
> authority, and even succeeded in making him look inarticulate and tentative 
> at meetings of the War Cabinet. It only takes a few viewings of a few YouTube 
> videos to see how sharply the truth differs from the caricature of him that 
> this motion picture perpetrates. Churchill's speech was taut, soaring and 
> full of vigour – enough to inspirit the most flaccid, mouse -like waverer, 
> and he was firm and decisive – to the point of often being domineering. 
> 'Darkest Hour' fails to depict any of this.
> 
> And as for Halifax, he certainly was a villain – to the point of being almost 
> a 5th columnist. If one reads 'When Britain Saved the West' by Robin Prior, 
> one begins to see Halifax in a truer light. But he was not the only villain; 
> the Conservative party was stiff with them.
> Grim
> 
>> On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 6:18:23 PM UTC+13, Dave Turrell wrote:
>> I have to admit to being something of a movephobe.  I see about two a year. 
>> This year one of them was ‘Darkest Hour’, at the vehement urging of my wife. 
>>  She knows about my interest in Churchill ever since the 1,500 related books 
>> in the basement became noticeable.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> In my opinion, the Oscar for Gary Oldman as best actor was absolutely 
>> appropriate.  Like Richard Langworth, I have always taken the late  Roberts 
>> Hardy’s performances as being the gold standard.  But to see Oldman as he 
>> really is, in his acceptance speech, and to see him in character – superb!  
>> That to me is what the Oscar is for – the ability to convincingly  be 
>> someone else.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> But to lose best picture – that was also appropriate.  Darkest Hour was 
>> undoubtedly a good movie, but it was too obviously Hollywood.  It needed a 
>> Hero and a Villain. Churchill was surely the hero, but was it really 
>> necessary to cast Halifax in such a satanic light?  And while I understand 
>> that the underground scene was a dramatic contrivance to resolve Winston’s 
>> doubts, it jars far too much with anything that we know about the old boy.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Wonderful casting and acting, but if we’re going to tell the story, let’s 
>> tell it right.  Leave it to Marvel to inspire with myth and legend.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Marcus Frost' via ChurchillChat [mailto:church...@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 7:47 PM
>> To: church...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] @Darkest Hour Reviews
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I’m pulling for Gary O. Saw it again for the second time yesterday. I still 
>> wept again at the force of the re- creation of the speeches. I think people 
>> around me thought me weird, but they don’t know the depth of our study of 
>> this great man and how he stood. People will never know or appreciate what 
>> he did for the world.
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:57 AM, Richard Langworth <ric...@langworth.name> wrote:
>> 
>> "And how can man die better
>> Than facing fearful odds..." 
>> @DarkestHour reviewed by the Hillsdale College Churchill Project.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Richard Langworth: 
>> https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.marketing/spake-brave-horatius-review-darkest-hour/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dr. Larry Arnn: http://bit.ly/2GAgs3R
>> 
>>  
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Re: [ChurchillChat] @Darkest Hour Reviews

2018-03-06 Thread judy . dean 
Congrats to Gary Oldman for his well-deserved Oscar for best actor.  
Remarkable performance!  While I do agree with Dave's assessment of the 
picture overall, I found that time and again it hit the nail precisely on 
the head. Thoroughly entertaining.  Especially the scene where, on his way 
out the door, Clemmie urges Winston to just be himself, and while examining 
the dozen or so hats hanging there to choose from, Winston, with an affable 
grin, says, "Now which self would that be?"  This fits marvelously with my 
own assessment of WSC in my recently published book, "Winston Pooh: An 
Investigation into the Real Story behind the Stories" available only at 
www.abebooks.com. 
 
 

On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 2:18:23 PM UTC+9, Dave Turrell wrote:

> I have to admit to being something of a movephobe.  I see about two a 
> year. This year one of them was ‘Darkest Hour’, at the vehement urging of 
> my wife.  She knows about my interest in Churchill ever since the 1,500 
> related books in the basement became noticeable.
>
>  
>
> In my opinion, the Oscar for Gary Oldman as best actor was absolutely 
> appropriate.  Like Richard Langworth, I have always taken the late  Roberts 
> Hardy’s performances as being the gold standard.  But to see Oldman as he 
> really is, in his acceptance speech, and to see him in character – superb!  
> That to me is what the Oscar is for – the ability to convincingly  be 
> someone else.
>
>  
>
> But to lose best picture – that was also appropriate.  Darkest Hour was 
> undoubtedly a good movie, but it was too obviously Hollywood.  It needed a 
> Hero and a Villain. Churchill was surely the hero, but was it really 
> necessary to cast Halifax in such a satanic light?  And while I understand 
> that the underground scene was a dramatic contrivance to resolve Winston’s 
> doubts, it jars far too much with anything that we know about the old boy. 
>
>  
>
> Wonderful casting and acting, but if we’re going to tell the story, let’s 
> tell it right.  Leave it to Marvel to inspire with myth and legend.
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Marcus Frost' via ChurchillChat [mailto:
> church...@googlegroups.com ] 
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 4, 2018 7:47 PM
> *To:* church...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [ChurchillChat] @Darkest Hour Reviews
>
>  
>
> I’m pulling for Gary O. Saw it again for the second time yesterday. I 
> still wept again at the force of the re- creation of the speeches. I think 
> people around me thought me weird, but they don’t know the depth of our 
> study of this great man and how he stood. People will never know or 
> appreciate what he did for the world.
>
> Marcus
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:57 AM, Richard Langworth <ric...@langworth.name 
> > wrote:
>
> "And how can man die better
> Than facing fearful odds..." 
> @DarkestHour reviewed by the Hillsdale College Churchill Project.
>
>  
>
> Richard Langworth: 
> https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.marketing/spake-brave-horatius-review-darkest-hour/
>
>  
>
> Dr. Larry Arnn: http://bit.ly/2GAgs3R
>
>  
>
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RE: [ChurchillChat] @Darkest Hour Reviews

2018-03-04 Thread Dave Turrell 
I have to admit to being something of a movephobe.  I see about two a year. 
This year one of them was ‘Darkest Hour’, at the vehement urging of my wife.  
She knows about my interest in Churchill ever since the 1,500 related books in 
the basement became noticeable.

 

In my opinion, the Oscar for Gary Oldman as best actor was absolutely 
appropriate.  Like Richard Langworth, I have always taken the late  Roberts 
Hardy’s performances as being the gold standard.  But to see Oldman as he 
really is, in his acceptance speech, and to see him in character – superb!  
That to me is what the Oscar is for – the ability to convincingly  be someone 
else.

 

But to lose best picture – that was also appropriate.  Darkest Hour was 
undoubtedly a good movie, but it was too obviously Hollywood.  It needed a Hero 
and a Villain. Churchill was surely the hero, but was it really necessary to 
cast Halifax in such a satanic light?  And while I understand that the 
underground scene was a dramatic contrivance to resolve Winston’s doubts, it 
jars far too much with anything that we know about the old boy. 

 

Wonderful casting and acting, but if we’re going to tell the story, let’s tell 
it right.  Leave it to Marvel to inspire with myth and legend.

 

Dave

 

From: 'Marcus Frost' via ChurchillChat [mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 7:47 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] @Darkest Hour Reviews

 

I’m pulling for Gary O. Saw it again for the second time yesterday. I still 
wept again at the force of the re- creation of the speeches. I think people 
around me thought me weird, but they don’t know the depth of our study of this 
great man and how he stood. People will never know or appreciate what he did 
for the world.

Marcus

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On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:57 AM, Richard Langworth <rich...@langworth.name 
<mailto:rich...@langworth.name> > wrote:

"And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds..." 
@DarkestHour reviewed by the Hillsdale College Churchill Project.

 

Richard Langworth:  
<https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.marketing/spake-brave-horatius-review-darkest-hour/>
 
https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.marketing/spake-brave-horatius-review-darkest-hour/

 

Dr. Larry Arnn:  <http://bit.ly/2GAgs3R> http://bit.ly/2GAgs3R

 

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Re: [ChurchillChat] @Darkest Hour Reviews

2018-03-04 Thread 'Marcus Frost' via ChurchillChat 
I’m pulling for Gary O. Saw it again for the second time yesterday. I still 
wept again at the force of the re- creation of the speeches. I think people 
around me thought me weird, but they don’t know the depth of our study of this 
great man and how he stood. People will never know or appreciate what he did 
for the world.
Marcus

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> On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:57 AM, Richard Langworth  wrote:
> 
> "And how can man die better
> Than facing fearful odds..." 
> @DarkestHour reviewed by the Hillsdale College Churchill Project.
> 
> Richard Langworth: 
> https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.marketing/spake-brave-horatius-review-darkest-hour/
> 
> Dr. Larry Arnn: http://bit.ly/2GAgs3R
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